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Uplink01
Jun 14, 2017Star
2nd gen Eero announced.
Well. Eero just announced a new 2nd gen hardware, and I must say, I have pre-ordered it. Orbi raw speed is great (when it seems to work) but you have some major flaws that I just think it's time to...
nizmoz
Jul 05, 2017Apprentice
Now that they have tests out, seems to prove you wrong like usual. EERO is twice the power, twice the speed as they said.
peteytesting
Jul 06, 2017Hero
sigh
but its not twice the wifi coverage or twice the throughput , all you get is a second 5 gig which wont cover any greater distance
the beacon units also dont have ethernet
and
- Malware protection and parental controls require subscription fee
how about read the reviews rather than just paraphrase the headings
- Uplink01Jul 06, 2017Star
peteytesting wrote:sigh
but its not twice the wifi coverage or twice the throughput , all you get is a second 5 gig which wont cover any greater distance
the beacon units also dont have ethernet
and
- Malware protection and parental controls require subscription fee
how about read the reviews rather than just paraphrase the headings
Sigh is right...
The beacons don't have ethernet, and neither does the Orbi Wall Plug Satellite... So what is the point you are making?Also the 2nd Gen vs the 1st Gen are actually very differnet. The second generation units have better antennas and more sophisticated wave 2 radios with working beamforming/2x MU-MIMO and lower noise floors. Yes, they have also added a 3rd band, so you get 2.4Ghz, 5.2Ghz, and 5.8Ghz, and the TureMesh/eeroOS firmware figures out the best and fastest path for everything instead of just dedicating one channel to a backhall.
For extra Malware protection, and addtional content filters (You get parental controls, aka Family Profiles, for free) you can purchase Eero plus, but its completely optional. The best part IMO, if you choose to pay for it is the VIP support, that I actually used today under the 30 day free trial.
And yes, so far, my 3x 2nd Gen Eero (Wireless Pro) setup is out performing the Orbi (RBK50 setup) in everyway. Speedtests, stablilty, support, and well the Eero iOS app is just great...I get that their is some beta firmware coming at some point (seems like we have been talking about it for how many months now?) and a new iOS app in the works, but its been a bit to long at this point for me. So much new hardware has come out from the Orbi team, but software wise, almost nothing??? Doesn't make sense to me when I see Eero releasing new hardware, with all new firmware for its 1st + 2nd gen Eero's, and all new updated apps...
- peteytestingJul 06, 2017Hero
apart from the rbs30 all other orbis do have ethernet ports
"so you get 2.4Ghz, 5.2Ghz, and 5.8Ghz,"
and still no increase in signal strength or coverage , beamforming works on the orbi and mu-mimo is useless for anyone that has more than 3 clients connected anyway its just an advertising gimmick
sorry but paying for anything after you have purchased a product just doesnt make sense
yer but didnt you have a faulty orbi kit ? so it would out perform it
just for your info there have been in excess of 20 firmware versions so far and there will be more
im glad you are happy with the eero but as i stated b4 its not twice as good as the original as the reviews seem to be claiming
- Uplink01Jul 07, 2017Star
peteytesting wrote:apart from the rbs30 all other orbis do have ethernet ports
"so you get 2.4Ghz, 5.2Ghz, and 5.8Ghz,"
and still no increase in signal strength or coverage , beamforming works on the orbi and mu-mimo is useless for anyone that has more than 3 clients connected anyway its just an advertising gimmick
sorry but paying for anything after you have purchased a product just doesnt make sense
yer but didnt you have a faulty orbi kit ? so it would out perform it
just for your info there have been in excess of 20 firmware versions so far and there will be more
im glad you are happy with the eero but as i stated b4 its not twice as good as the original as the reviews seem to be claiming
And the Eero's also have ethernet ports, so again what is the point you are making?
I can't say that I agree with that at all. I actually had the 1st Gen Eeros (5 of them at one point) and I couldn't get above 150Mbps on speed tests in most rooms of my house. That is the main reason I switched to Orbi in the first place, as the Orbi had the "raw" speed. Since moving to just 3 new Gen 2 Eero's I get 350Mbps+ (more than my 300/20 internet) in each room, with no issues what so ever. So I am having a hard time saying that they have not been improved... Also it seems that they have a new firmware update coming out that is going to improve the "speed' even more in the future.
What doesn't make sense is to pay a bunch of money for a product that doesn't seem to work? What also doesn't make sense is to pay a bunch of money for something that continues to frustrate me? What does make sense FOR ME is to buy something that works much better, and actually gives me what I am looking for...
My experience with Netgear support has been very lackluster over the years. I actually went to best buy, purchased another Orbi setup, used it for 2 weeks, STILL had the same issues, and returned it. A friend of mine is also a having similar issues with his Orbi setup, and has also switch to the new Eero 2nd's (Eero + 2x Beacons) and is having a better experience overall.
Those "20" or so firmware updates are mostly labeled as "bug fixes." What are they fixing? Who knows... I haven't seen any major improvement to the dated Web UI, let alone that the iOS app has seen what one update since it was launched? Maybe two... I am not saying that the new firmware update (and iOS app) that is hopefully coming out soon will improve the experience for Orbi customers, but at this point it is way to late for me.