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AeroSKI
Mar 15, 2020Aspirant
Any way to have any timed access control w/RBR20 as Access Point?
Just installed the standard RBR20 +2 Satellite kit, replacing an aged Apple Airport Extreme that just wasn't cutting it any longer.
Unfortunately, I'm in the situation of an ATT Uverse (ARRIS) modem that is also the local network router/DHCP server, with numerous things connected via wired Ethernet throughout the house. It's wifi has always been shut off... the Airport was providing WiFi along with device-specific timed access controls for kids' devices. That all worked fine for years, save for the occasionally poor coverage and dropouts leading me to buy Orbi.
Now, I've learned the hard way the Orbi must be in Access Point (AP) mode for everything to work as before... I cannot find a way to configure it as Router, even with DHCP disabled, and to stay on the same network as everything else (192.168.1.x); even with a hard-assigned IP that's on the same subnet but outside the ARRIS DHCP range, it gives the infamous WAN IP conflict error and won't configure. All other combinations result in my WiFi devices getting alternate IP addresses and unable to co-exist with the hardwired devices.
So, I suppose first question is there any way around the dueling subnets issue so I can use Orbi in Router mode... vs. the more important issue of even while Circle may not be available in AP mode, why is it that Orbi's basic Security-Access Control is also not available.. when it's obviously possible if Apple had it for a decade...
Any other options, or even other Netgear products I should have considered? Thanks
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If you can't bridge the modem, disable ALL wifi radios on the modem, configure the modems DMZ/ExposedHost or IP Pass-Through for the IP address the ORbi router gets from the modem. Configure the RBR for router mode.
- AeroSKIAspirant
Thanks FURRYe38 and apologies for the newbie questions... I think I get how to set the NVG589 over to Pass-Through and id RBR20's allocated IP... but doesn't that still create two separate networks? In other words, all the hard-wired devices get DHCP addresses from the NVG589. The RBR20 would be giving different addresses to the WiFi devices - unless I can disable DHCP on the Orbi... then would work as before with all devices getting addresses from the gateway and knowing 192.168.1.254 is their DNS?
My issue with needing everything on the same 192.168.1.x network for AirPlay, Nexia/Z-Wave, Sonos devices, etc. which all have to be on the same network to function.
Seems strange Netgear wouldn't even have basic MAC address time-based access available in AP mode, when devices like the decade old Apple Airport had that simplicity for so long.
thanks
Yes, you need to connect everything to the ORBI router to have everything on the same network.
I would check to see if you can bridge your ISP Modem if your going to run the Orbi in router mode. If not, you may want to configure the Orbi RBR for AP mode. Then everything will be on the same network as your modem will be your main host router.
AeroSKI wrote:Thanks FURRYe38 and apologies for the newbie questions... I think I get how to set the NVG589 over to Pass-Through and id RBR20's allocated IP... but doesn't that still create two separate networks? In other words, all the hard-wired devices get DHCP addresses from the NVG589. The RBR20 would be giving different addresses to the WiFi devices - unless I can disable DHCP on the Orbi... then would work as before with all devices getting addresses from the gateway and knowing 192.168.1.254 is their DNS?
My issue with needing everything on the same 192.168.1.x network for AirPlay, Nexia/Z-Wave, Sonos devices, etc. which all have to be on the same network to function.
Seems strange Netgear wouldn't even have basic MAC address time-based access available in AP mode, when devices like the decade old Apple Airport had that simplicity for so long.
thanks