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struan99
Sep 05, 2021Tutor
Can Orbi cause problems for Virgin Media SuperHub 3?
Problem: I am using a Virgin Media Superhub 3 in modem mode, connected to a Netgear Orbi RBR50 router. Periodically (sometimes every 5 minutes or so, sometimes once an hour), the Superhub loses its i...
- Sep 06, 2021
I wasn't able to open that spreadsheet (I don't have Excel, and tried in Google Spreadsheets without success). Also, the Superhub 3 lost its connection again this morning while running in router mode and connected to the Orbi. However, I had another (a third!) visit from Virgin Media today. The engineer switched my hub, giving me a Superhub 4 to replace the Superhub 3. When the engineer tried to put that Superhub 4 in modem mode, with the Orbi connected, nothing worked. When he tried putting it in router mode, and disabling wifi via the Superhub 4's control panel, everything did work. I've had a stable connection for the intervening 3 hours or so. I'll cross my fingers that it all continues working, though I'm still baffled as to what went wrong originally, or *why* this approach would work. Thanks for helping me with all this!
FURRYe38
Sep 05, 2021Guru - Experienced User
Have the ISP check the signal and line quality UP to the modem. Be sure the ISP provisions the modem correctly.
Be sure there are no coax cable line splitters in the between the modem and ISP service box.
Be sure your using good quality RG6 coax cable up to the modem.
Be sure to power OFF the modem for 1 minute them back ON.
What Firmware version is currently loaded?
What is the Mfr and model# of the Internet Service Providers modem/ONT the NG router is connected too?
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What is the size of your home? Sq Ft?
What is the distance between the router and satellite(s)? 30 feet or more is recommended in between RBR and RBS to begin with depending upon building materials when wirelessly connected.
Is the RBR directly connected to the ISP superhub router or is there a switch in between. Normally, any external router should be directly connected to the modem/ont. Any switches needed are connected behind the RBR or external router.
Try option #2 then #3:
Your ISP Modem already has a built in router and wifi. This would be a double NAT (two router) condition which isn't recommended. https://kb.netgear.com/30186/What-is-Double-NAT
https://kb.netgear.com/30187/How-to-fix-issues-with-Double-NAT
Couple of options,
1. Configure the modem for transparent bridge or modem only mode. Then use the Orbi router in router mode. You'll need to contact the ISP for help and information in regards to the modem being bridged correctly.
2. If you can't bridge the modem, disable ALL wifi radios on the modem, configure the modems DMZ/ExposedHost or IP Pass-Through for the IP address the Orbi router gets from the modem. Then you can use the Orbi router in Router mode.
3. Or disable all wifi radios on the modem and connect the Orbi router to the modem, configure AP mode on the Orbi router. https://kb.netgear.com/31218/How-do-I-configure-my-Orbi-router-to-act-as-an-access-point and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7LOcJ8GdDo&app=desktop
- struan99Sep 05, 2021TutorThanks for the reply, but some of this answer doesn't seem relevant to the issue I described. Is my issue familiar? I'm just a bit unclear why I've had good stability for months, then it would drop a week ago; are you sure DMZ mode is the answer here?
- struan99Sep 05, 2021Tutor
Just to answer one question: my Orbi's firmware is V2.7.3.22. I don't think home square footage is relevant to my issue. Thanks!
- FURRYe38Sep 05, 2021Guru - Experienced User
These are troubleshooting steps and maybe necessary to try them to see if this helps with the problems your seeing, relevant or not, may lead to you finding the cause and or resolution. The more feed back you give us to the questions presented the better we can help you.
Good Luck.
struan99 wrote:
Thanks for the reply, but some of this answer doesn't seem relevant to the issue I described. Is my issue familiar? I'm just a bit unclear why I've had good stability for months, then it would drop a week ago; are you sure DMZ mode is the answer here?