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gr8sho
Dec 04, 2019Virtuoso
Considerations for using either Router or Access Point mode
Hello, I'm tapping the technical expertise of the community. I've searched through a number of threads and many of them are very situational, and in fact even the genesis of this thread has a si...
CrimpOn
Dec 04, 2019Guru - Experienced User
gr8sho wrote:But I lose the DNS configurability.
I ran my Orbi behind a router for over a year with "no problems", until I wanted to configure VPN so I could manage the Orbi remotely and "ran into a wall". So you are correct. "Double-NAT" is not an issue until it is an issue.
As FURRYe38 pointed out, most routers have the same capabilities for defining DNS servers as the Orbi router. If you post the brand & model number, I'm happy to help look for the User Manual. Or, a call to the ISP technical support line may help.
(I a way, I'm happy that you did not mention a desire to use Armor or Disney Circle, as those features give me chills.)
- gr8shoDec 04, 2019Virtuoso
CrimpOn wrote:I ran my Orbi behind a router for over a year with "no problems", until I wanted to configure VPN so I could manage the Orbi remotely and "ran into a wall". So you are correct. "Double-NAT" is not an issue until it is an issue.
As FURRYe38 pointed out, most routers have the same capabilities for defining DNS servers as the Orbi router. If you post the brand & model number, I'm happy to help look for the User Manual. Or, a call to the ISP technical support line may help.
(I a way, I'm happy that you did not mention a desire to use Armor or Disney Circle, as those features give me chills.)
Well, I wasn't thinking of those at all as I dismiss them, more of advanced features like implementing VLANs.
Now to your point of most routers, what we get from an ISP doesn't fall into the realm of "most routers". The Arris BGW210-700 likely could have the capability of overriding the DNS, but as consumers of the ATT internet product, we are not offered that level of control. So if I choose to use the Orbi as merely an Access Point, I forfeit the ability to control the DNS. But because I'm stuck having to use their gateway, I'm still stuck with that box in the middle. Part of me just wants to throw my hands up in the air and simply comply with the restriction imposed on me and just deal with what I'm given.
- CrimpOnDec 04, 2019Guru - Experienced User
I'm confused. The "footer" on the message says:
Orbi RBK50 in Router mode, fed by 100/20 Mbps VDSL2 connected Arris BGW210 gateway in IP Passthrough
I thought "IP Passthrough" means that the modem is not routing, in which case the Orbi really needs to be in router mode.
- gr8shoDec 04, 2019Virtuoso
CrimpOn wrote:I'm confused. The "footer" on the message says:
Orbi RBK50 in Router mode, fed by 100/20 Mbps VDSL2 connected Arris BGW210 gateway in IP Passthrough
I thought "IP Passthrough" means that the modem is not routing, in which case the Orbi really needs to be in router mode.
You are not confused about the configuration, just about what the terms mean. One might interpret Passthrough or DMZ+ to be equal to true bridge. It is not, and it's taken me some significant time doing research and testing to determine at least partially what's going on. I cannot turn off the firewall completely on the host router either. It is what it is. I should point that technical people much more adept than myself go out of their way to remove this box from their active configuration, presumably for reasons of control and performance at least.