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itGeeks
Sep 26, 2016Apprentice
Feature Request: Orbi Satellite Ethernet Backhaul
As good as Orbi looks on paper I don't understand Y you would cut yourself so short and not support Eithernet backhaul for the satellites, I have 5 locations needing a system like this but without su...
- Apr 26, 2017
Let me acknowledge that our customer base has been clamoring for this feature for a while, and we are trying to be responsive to their needs. To provide context on why it's taking a while to get it out, during the first quarter, the Orbi Engineering team was focused on bringing out the two new products (RBK30 & RBK40) to market. Now that it's accomplished, we're actively working on bringing this feature and a couple of other interesting, market-requested features to you.
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xantari
Nov 18, 2016Star
I concur, ethernet backhaul is much needed. I have 1-gig ethernet throughout the entire house. But I need wireless for 8 wireless only devices in my home, and also to provide guest access to the internet.
The way this is currently designed, is that it is stealing bandwidth away from those devices when it could otherwise be using that bandwidth to service my wireless devices.
Please netgear, implement this feature. Your competitor unifi, with their super cheap enterprise level wireless access points are going to beat you to the punch, at half the price.
TheEther
Nov 18, 2016Guru
xantari wrote:
The way this is currently designed, is that it is stealing bandwidth away from those devices when it could otherwise be using that bandwidth to service my wireless devices.
This is not correct. The Orbi uses a separated, dedicated wireless channel for backhaul.
- xantariNov 18, 2016Star
According to the Orbi manual (very last page) the backhaul has a theoretical maximum of the following:
5 GHz Back haul: Max 1733 Mbps
I purchased the Orbi router with 2 satellites. Those three devices share one 1 gigabit ethernet port on my switch, since the satellites communicate only over the 5ghz backhaul (maxes out at 1733 mbps), which effectively limits the maximum throughput of the whole system to 1 gbps because everything ultimately communicates via the 1733 mbps 5ghz backhaul with the router. Remember the router is connected via 1Gbps ethernet port to the switch. So the limit is actually 1gbps for the whole system.
Now imagine if the 2 satellites, rather than communicating through the backhaul could each independentaly use their own 1 gig ethernet connections to my switch. I have effectively trippled the maximum throughput to 3 gbps (1 gbps for the router base station and 2 gbps for the satellites (1 gbps per satellite)).
Manuel is located here: http://www.downloads.netgear.com/files/GDC/RBK50/Orbi_UM_EN.pdf
So yes, the backhaul using dedicated switch port is far superior to current method employed.
- xantariNov 18, 2016Star
Also, when all satellites would be hooked into 1gbps ethernet, you could then turn off the backhaul channels and free of RF spectrum. Or better yet, allow wireless devices themselves to use that 5ghz 1733mbps spectrum that is now free to service user requests rather than occupy satellite to satellite communication.
- peteytestingNov 18, 2016Hero
xantari wrote:According to the Orbi manual (very last page) the backhaul has a theoretical maximum of the following:
5 GHz Back haul: Max 1733 Mbps
correct thats the sync maximum the backhauk will connect at
I purchased the Orbi router with 2 satellites. Those three devices share one 1 gigabit ethernet port on my switch, since the satellites communicate only over the 5ghz backhaul (maxes out at 1733 mbps), which effectively limits the maximum throughput of the whole system to 1 gbps because everything ultimately communicates via the 1733 mbps 5ghz backhaul with the router. Remember the router is connected via 1Gbps ethernet port to the switch. So the limit is actually 1gbps for the whole system.
Now imagine if the 2 satellites, rather than communicating through the backhaul could each independentaly use their own 1 gig ethernet connections to my switch. I have effectively trippled the maximum throughput to 3 gbps (1 gbps for the router base station and 2 gbps for the satellites (1 gbps per satellite)).
Manuel is located here: http://www.downloads.netgear.com/files/GDC/RBK50/Orbi_UM_EN.pdf
So yes, the backhaul using dedicated switch port is far superior to current method employed.
correct thats the sync maximum the backhauk will connect at 1733M
the 1733M is shared between the 2 sats you have connected
you do understand the the max sync of each sat to clients is 867M
your theory of trippling the signal is wrong
incorrect as the max client connection to each sat is 867M
- xantariNov 18, 2016Star
yes, the satellites couldn't possibly use all the 1gbps ethernet port has to offer. So not techincally triple (3gbps), but rather 3 x 867 = 2,601 Mbps
Either way, ethernet backhaul is the best way to go.
Free up RF Spectrum, and allow much higher speeds for wireless clients.
Right now everything is limited to 1gbps, because they all end up back to the router, so all satellites and router share one 1gbps ethernet port :(