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itGeeks
Sep 26, 2016Apprentice
Feature Request: Orbi Satellite Ethernet Backhaul
As good as Orbi looks on paper I don't understand Y you would cut yourself so short and not support Eithernet backhaul for the satellites, I have 5 locations needing a system like this but without su...
- Apr 26, 2017
Let me acknowledge that our customer base has been clamoring for this feature for a while, and we are trying to be responsive to their needs. To provide context on why it's taking a while to get it out, during the first quarter, the Orbi Engineering team was focused on bringing out the two new products (RBK30 & RBK40) to market. Now that it's accomplished, we're actively working on bringing this feature and a couple of other interesting, market-requested features to you.
Orbi Product Team
rafale7
Mar 18, 2017Apprentice
Thank you. This was informative on the Orbi. It seems to be lacking more features than I thought.
The biggest drawback of the ubiquity is that the wireless backhaul is using the wifi network and will slow down the base ssid. What Orbi brings is a separate wireless backhaul which is what I am looking for. I have friends running ubiquity using both wired and wireless backhaul. The band steering and the interface management is very buggy and the platform is slower than say a bunch of ancient apple airports. Actually Ubiquity offers nothing new compared to having Apple airports in bridge mode or as repeaters. The goal is to have the uplink wireless unit run at full wifi speed while serving the satellites.
Orbi's innovation is the separate channel backhaul. What we are asking for is also a wired backhaul to work in parallel and the ability to kick out dumb devices which get hooked up on one AP even when the signal has become weak which from what you are saying does not appear to be the case. I thought this was one of the key advantages of the APs. Ubiquity does this but very poorly from what I observed.
If Ubiquity not using wifi as their wireless backhaul then I would agree with you but so far I am only seeing the velop and the orbi offering this feature.
Again, I do not have wiring throughout the house. I have wiring at some places and not at others. This is the reason why I would like to have both so I can use wires where I can and wireless where I cannot instead of bogging down the whole house through a wireles only solution.
rhester72 Sorry if you don't understand and it frustrates you. I am using wired APs. They are not covering areas where I don't have wires very well or with repeaters reduce the speed of the AP the repeaters are connected to.
st_shaw
Mar 18, 2017Master
rafale7 No problem. You raise a good point about the Ubiquity wireless backhaul reducing throughput. I think this is the case with several "mesh" solutions. You need an additional radio, like Orbi has, to address that.
I have both Ubiquity and Orbi operating in two different sites. I've tested throughput with iPerf, and the WiFi throughput is equivalent with with both systems, with a slight edge to the Ubiquiti. I get maximum data throughput of 250 Mbps vith an Ubiquiti AP-Pro vs 225 Mbps with Orbi. This is probably limited by my 2011 laptop though. I don't have an ac client to test with.
I don't see the buggy interface issues you mention with Ubiquiti, and the handoff from AP to AP, and the handoff from 5G to 2.4G, seems to work about the same on both systems.
- JMU1998Mar 18, 2017Luminary
Why is Netgear not providing wired backhaul if other similar systems are? what is the problem? Why are other similar systems offering this feature why can't Netgear.
- peteytestingMar 19, 2017Hero
JMU1998 wrote:Why is Netgear not providing wired backhaul if other similar systems are? what is the problem? Why are other similar systems offering this feature why can't Netgear.
your getting like a broken record and its getting a bit boring
lets break down the question so you UNDERSTAND
"Why is Netgear not providing wired backhaul if other similar systems are?"
becuse it wasnt designed with that feature and you are wrong as not all do wired backhaul
"what is the problem?"
who knows but after 3 months of beta testing and 6 months in the wild i suggest its not a priority or on the road map at this stage
"Why are other similar systems offering this feature"
because they where designed with it as a standard feature , btw there are no real similar systems apart from velop and its not even the same , orbi has no real comparison at this stage