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itGeeks
Sep 26, 2016Apprentice
Feature Request: Orbi Satellite Ethernet Backhaul
As good as Orbi looks on paper I don't understand Y you would cut yourself so short and not support Eithernet backhaul for the satellites, I have 5 locations needing a system like this but without su...
- Apr 26, 2017
Let me acknowledge that our customer base has been clamoring for this feature for a while, and we are trying to be responsive to their needs. To provide context on why it's taking a while to get it out, during the first quarter, the Orbi Engineering team was focused on bringing out the two new products (RBK30 & RBK40) to market. Now that it's accomplished, we're actively working on bringing this feature and a couple of other interesting, market-requested features to you.
Orbi Product Team
Hirrdgoon
Mar 08, 2017Apprentice
Ended up returning the orbi due to no WIRED backhaul. I hope they add it in for you guys down the road.
I would have kept it if it had this feature.
Building out a Ubiquity Unify network instead.
I would have kept it if it had this feature.
Building out a Ubiquity Unify network instead.
selsrog
Apr 23, 2017Tutor
I'll be returning my gear as well.
Forgot to check the existance of the ethernet backhaul (as I imagined it was available).
Cannot wait for the firmware update... If it ever sees the light of day...
- rafale7Apr 23, 2017Apprentice
selsrog wrote:I'll be returning my gear as well.
Forgot to check the existance of the ethernet backhaul (as I imagined it was available).
Cannot wait for the firmware update... If it ever sees the light of day...
I returned mine yesterday. It is too bad because they were performing quite well but did not fit my use case. After thinking about it, Not to second guess the netgear engineers and marketing guys but being in the tech field doing both jobs myself, I would have adopted a slightly different product strategy:
1. I would have made the routers and satellites interchangeable given the fact that they are physically identical in terms of hardware. It would have saved cost by releasing a unique unit and lowered the inventory management.
2. I would have designed it with the flexibility of the ethernet backhaul, used a 3x3 broadcast radio with the 4x4 backhaul
3. limited the backhaul to 2 satellites to maintain performance of the wireless satellites.
I spent some time testing different 2x2, 3x3, and 4x4 APs with a single clients on the 5GHz AC band for those who think the unifi AC lineup is anywhere close to an upgrade, think again. they are practicaly the slowest AP you can buy with the exception of the just off the mill AC-HD which is finally using a decent/enterprise chipset. The others use a chipset only found in a couple of very poor budget N or "AC was an afterthought" routers. The AC-Pro achieved 25-50% lower speed vs the Apple AP at most locations in spite of using 50% (6 Vs 4) more units in my topology.
- JMU1998Apr 26, 2017Luminary
Any update from Netgear Engineering on this wired backhaul feature? Do any Mods have any additional info to share with us on this topic if Engineering are considering this as a future enhancement request? Netgear Idea exchange has it as the most popular feature requested.
https://community.netgear.com/t5/Idea-Exchange-For-Home/Netgear-Orbi-Wired-Sattelite/idi-p/1145210
- AmitRApr 26, 2017NETGEAR Employee Retired
Let me acknowledge that our customer base has been clamoring for this feature for a while, and we are trying to be responsive to their needs. To provide context on why it's taking a while to get it out, during the first quarter, the Orbi Engineering team was focused on bringing out the two new products (RBK30 & RBK40) to market. Now that it's accomplished, we're actively working on bringing this feature and a couple of other interesting, market-requested features to you.
Orbi Product Team
- MaxPowerrSep 03, 2017Aspirant
rafale7Why would you ever compare Ubiquiti to Apple? This a literal Apple to oranges comparison. Is the Airport wall/ceiling mountable? Does it support PoE? Is Ubiquiti hardware consumer friendly/targeted? These are products that serve different markets.
BECAUSE the Airport isn't meant for wall/ceiling installations it can have a much different physical profile (its height) which allows for a much higher gain antenna. It also isn't limited by PoE, so it can include a 32 dB radio as opposed to the typical 20-25 dB included in Ubiquiti products. But the Airport doesn't support fast BSSID roaming, min RSSI control, token-based guest access with payment options, or a slew of other features.
The Ubiquiti products are great for their designed purpose. They aren't the fastest APs available but they are no-nonsense and reasonably reliable and give you a lot of control over a multi AP installation. Far too many consumer APs have absurd and frequent firmware issues and inconsistent performance so it's not surprising to hear that more and more pro-sumers are adopting more flexible and functional Ubiquiti gear. Frankly Netgear's Orbi products are a response to that interest.
Disingenuous comparisons aren't ever helpful. At least offer some context.
- roy9183Sep 04, 2017Star
Hi Guys ,
Around 200 treads and still no update on the Backhaul. ORBI have launched their Business Version a few days back.
Do these units support Ethernet Backhaul? I doubt .
Not sure why NETGEAR is looking to risk their business users with an incomplete product and no true mesh capability.
BR.
Robroy
- linkwrtJan 23, 2018Guide
rafale7 wrote:
selsrog wrote:I'll be returning my gear as well.
Forgot to check the existance of the ethernet backhaul (as I imagined it was available).
Cannot wait for the firmware update... If it ever sees the light of day...
I returned mine yesterday. It is too bad because they were performing quite well but did not fit my use case. After thinking about it, Not to second guess the netgear engineers and marketing guys but being in the tech field doing both jobs myself, I would have adopted a slightly different product strategy:
1. I would have made the routers and satellites interchangeable given the fact that they are physically identical in terms of hardware. It would have saved cost by releasing a unique unit and lowered the inventory management.
2. I would have designed it with the flexibility of the ethernet backhaul, used a 3x3 broadcast radio with the 4x4 backhaul
3. limited the backhaul to 2 satellites to maintain performance of the wireless satellites.
I spent some time testing different 2x2, 3x3, and 4x4 APs with a single clients on the 5GHz AC band for those who think the unifi AC lineup is anywhere close to an upgrade, think again. they are practicaly the slowest AP you can buy with the exception of the just off the mill AC-HD which is finally using a decent/enterprise chipset. The others use a chipset only found in a couple of very poor budget N or "AC was an afterthought" routers. The AC-Pro achieved 25-50% lower speed vs the Apple AP at most locations in spite of using 50% (6 Vs 4) more units in my topology.
These tests are only for information, and not relevant.
In case of orbi you can extend speed in other rooms.
Also design of houses are not the same.