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itGeeks
Sep 26, 2016Apprentice
Feature Request: Orbi Satellite Ethernet Backhaul
As good as Orbi looks on paper I don't understand Y you would cut yourself so short and not support Eithernet backhaul for the satellites, I have 5 locations needing a system like this but without su...
- Apr 26, 2017
Let me acknowledge that our customer base has been clamoring for this feature for a while, and we are trying to be responsive to their needs. To provide context on why it's taking a while to get it out, during the first quarter, the Orbi Engineering team was focused on bringing out the two new products (RBK30 & RBK40) to market. Now that it's accomplished, we're actively working on bringing this feature and a couple of other interesting, market-requested features to you.
Orbi Product Team
hulster8valve
Oct 18, 2017Tutor
I got more and more to the point that Netgear is right not give too much priority on this feature.
People mixing up features of the term mesh. Following features are often wanted, but not a primary feature of mesh wireless networks:
- unique SSID
- instant roaming
The primary feature of mesh is the INDEPENDENT WIRELESS backhaul not grabbing ressoureces of the client networks.
So if you have wired/ethernet backhaul you usually not really need Orbi or similar products.
Orbi is a great product when you really need a wireless backhaul. If not there are other options.
Unfortunately brands focussed by history on wired stuff are a bit poor on implementing fast(instant roaming and single SSID in their classic wireless products. Netgear and other brands just implementng that with the new hyped Mesh product lines.
But their are other brands like Ubiquiti focussing on wireless and implementing such features for a bigger product line with a lot of choices for everybodies needs. I am only mentioning Ubiquiti because for me there is a good price-performance ratio. There are other brands.
Just try to give some better understanding and people may realize other stuff is better option.
truepudding
Oct 18, 2017Star
Great post ...
> The primary feature of mesh is the INDEPENDENT WIRELESS backhaul not grabbing ressoureces of the client networks.
but I disagree here. You described mesh in your post well, however (Instant roaming). Resources off the client network is nothing in a world of GB routers for $10. The physics between copper and wireless is mind boggling. This is the primary feature of ORBI, not MESH.
The mesh network devices job is to provide instant roaming to clients. đ How it provides that service differs between Orbi, and every single other comparible product that does support wired backhaul. Having a dedicated radio is awesome... but it lacks a feature that would make it the same as the competitors, plus the 20% better. That would make me buy it again.
Also keep in mind you are on a thread with dozens of people wanting this feature. So I donât think anyone wants to hear that not having this capability is a âfeatureâ. đ
> The primary feature of mesh is the INDEPENDENT WIRELESS backhaul not grabbing ressoureces of the client networks.
but I disagree here. You described mesh in your post well, however (Instant roaming). Resources off the client network is nothing in a world of GB routers for $10. The physics between copper and wireless is mind boggling. This is the primary feature of ORBI, not MESH.
The mesh network devices job is to provide instant roaming to clients. đ How it provides that service differs between Orbi, and every single other comparible product that does support wired backhaul. Having a dedicated radio is awesome... but it lacks a feature that would make it the same as the competitors, plus the 20% better. That would make me buy it again.
Also keep in mind you are on a thread with dozens of people wanting this feature. So I donât think anyone wants to hear that not having this capability is a âfeatureâ. đ
- OrbiPhilipOct 19, 2017Luminary
The arguments against wired backhaul are amazing. If the ONLY reason to buy Orbi is the wireless backhaul, the design/engineering team has failed spectacularly.
Backhaul is backhaul. It's not a feature, it's a neccessity. Without it, the remote AP is a table decoration. When available, wired bachkaul should always be preferred for reliability. When it is not available, use wireless to overcome environmental limitation.
As for Netgear not publishing a roadmap, that's very short sighted to the point of working directly against their marketing efforts instead of complementing them.- Dan_HOct 19, 2017ApprenticeSo they failed because they provided a product that works extremely well when you can't run wire? They failed because they didn't add wired backhaul for the 25 people bad at math who can't figure out wired orbis are a bad value proposition because if you can run wire they should be buying something much cheaper that would perform the same? Anyway it is coming eventually, so the point is moot. You'll eventually get something that was never advertised to begin with and hopefully you'll be happy.
- SandspikeOct 19, 2017Star
I don't think they've failed, but you are wrong. A mesh system that allows for seemless handoff under one SSID and management layer via wired backhaul is what we want. You can't accomplish that with a cheaper solution. If Netgear said, we can't/won't do that, then we could move on. But their solution with wired backhaul would be the best solution for most.
- hulster8valveOct 19, 2017Tutor
OrbiPhilip wrote:The arguments against wired backhaul are amazing. If the ONLY reason to buy Orbi is the wireless backhaul, the design/engineering team has failed spectacularly.
Sorry - your are not right. This product is designed for wireless backhaul and Mesh. There is a lot of other Netgear stuff you can buy if you just need wired backhaul and some wireless AP. If you just bougth for design reason - ok - that might be your prob.
I am on telling if your reason is single SSID and fast roaming there are other options.
So tell me why Orbi must have wired backhaul and there is no alternative for you.
Maybe I have overlooked something.
- OrbiPhilipOct 19, 2017Luminary
hulster8valve wrote:So tell me why Orbi must have wired backhaul and there is no alternative for you. Maybe I have overlooked something.
That is not the statement I made. Re-read it again.