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Braavos
Sep 06, 2020Aspirant
How to configure different IP classes on the WAN and LAN
I would like to configure a secondary network which must be separate from the primary network. The Orbi router will act as DHCP server through one of the LAN port. The secondary network will be 172.1...
- Sep 06, 2020
Braavos wrote:Thanks CrimpOn , for your prompt reply, so in short if I have one public IP from the ISP I cannot use it on the router and still create a DHCP on the Orbi LAN?
It is probably useful to confirm how many "routers" we are talking about.
ISP's provide one public IP address to a customer. That is the WAN (internet) IP address on the router. The router in turn creates a private IP network on the LAN side. One router: one LAN network.
A second router (perhaps an Orbi) can be connected to one of the LAN ports on the primary router. The WAN IP address on that second router will get an IP address from the primary router. It will then create its own LAN side network, with a different IP address space. All of the devices connected to that second router will have different IP addresses than everything connected to the primary router. This is commonly described as a "Double NAT" situation: https://kb.netgear.com/30186/What-is-Double-NAT
I have stacked as many as three routers. Devices on the third router can access the internet, but there are major complications getting them to access devices connected to the first two routers and things such as internet gaming, opening ports, VPN, etc.
So, each router has one WAN IP and creates one LAN network.
CrimpOn
Sep 06, 2020Guru - Experienced User
Braavos wrote:I would like to configure a secondary network which must be separate from the primary network. The Orbi router will act as DHCP server through one of the LAN port. The secondary network will be 172.19.255.0 and gateway IP will be 172.19.255.254.
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How do I configure both Orbi WAN and LAN independently and still have internet on the secondary LAN.
The Orbi product DHCP server can only handle one DHCP pool and the default is to assign the LAN IP of the Orbi as both the gateway and the DNS server. Orbi cannot distinguish a DHCP request broadcast by which LAN (or WiFi) interface it comes from.
I am afraid that this design is not compatible with the Orbi product capabilities.
- BraavosSep 06, 2020Aspirant
Thanks CrimpOn , for your prompt reply, so in short if I have one public IP from the ISP I cannot use it on the router and still create a DHCP on the Orbi LAN?
- MstrbigSep 06, 2020Master
Braavos wrote:Thanks CrimpOn , for your prompt reply, so in short if I have one public IP from the ISP I cannot use it on the router and still create a DHCP on the Orbi LAN?
When you say public IP, did you purchase this IP, so it is static? Or is it the assigned IP address from the ISP, that may change from time to time?
- CrimpOnSep 06, 2020Guru - Experienced User
Braavos wrote:Thanks CrimpOn , for your prompt reply, so in short if I have one public IP from the ISP I cannot use it on the router and still create a DHCP on the Orbi LAN?
It is probably useful to confirm how many "routers" we are talking about.
ISP's provide one public IP address to a customer. That is the WAN (internet) IP address on the router. The router in turn creates a private IP network on the LAN side. One router: one LAN network.
A second router (perhaps an Orbi) can be connected to one of the LAN ports on the primary router. The WAN IP address on that second router will get an IP address from the primary router. It will then create its own LAN side network, with a different IP address space. All of the devices connected to that second router will have different IP addresses than everything connected to the primary router. This is commonly described as a "Double NAT" situation: https://kb.netgear.com/30186/What-is-Double-NAT
I have stacked as many as three routers. Devices on the third router can access the internet, but there are major complications getting them to access devices connected to the first two routers and things such as internet gaming, opening ports, VPN, etc.
So, each router has one WAN IP and creates one LAN network.