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X1Zero
Feb 01, 2021Guide
How to disable automatic firmware updates?
Where is the option to disable firmware updates? There seems to be no option in the Orbi App and no option on the Orbilogin web browser log in page either. I’ve been (happily) on the same firmware ...
X1Zero
Aug 31, 2021Guide
Looks like it happened again. I have the RBK23 modem/satellites and just a few hours ago everything was force updated to 2.7.3.22.
Prior to this, I was happily on 2.5.1.16 for over a year.
The part I don't understand is how this happened, especially since I've manually disabled all automatic updates in the router using the Telnet method. This is where you log into the router and disable the below configurations.
orbi_auto_upgrade=1
auto_check_for_upgrade=1
auto_update=1
Anyway, been running fine with all the firmware updates being bypassed for the past year except now with 2.7.3.22.
Has this occurred to anyone? How did the router bypass the disabled update configurations?!
FURRYe38
Aug 31, 2021Guru - Experienced User
I presume NG puts in code to allow updates regardless on whats set ON the RBR. I tried this with my 8 series Orbi and found the only way to block auto FW updates is to have a upstream router in place that blocks:
http.fw.updates1.netgear.com and updates1.netgear.com
- mbreksopNov 01, 2021Star
But then you daisy chain two routers and ISP Modem, is that right ?
I still don't get it, my NG forced updates to their customer, it's one way to ruin their great products.
- FURRYe38Nov 01, 2021Guru - Experienced User
Yes. You can daisy chain two routers and block FW Updates with the upstream router from the Orbi router.
mbreksop wrote:
But then you daisy chain two routers and ISP Modem, is that right ?
I still don't get it, my NG forced updates to their customer, it's one way to ruin their great products.
- CrimpOnNov 01, 2021Guru - Experienced User
mbreksop wrote:
I still don't get it, my NG forced updates to their customer, it's one way to ruin their great products.
The automatic firmware update is an issue because it seems to almost always result in problems for some users. A lot of customers want an appliance. They want to plug it in. Use it. And never have to spend any time fussing with it. Many of my neighbors have not even changed the default WiFi SSID on their AT&T or Spectrum supplied routers.
My computers , my television, my phone and tablet, even my security system put a notice on the screen "Firmware Update Available". If I ignore the warning and something goes wrong, the blaim falls on me. If the customer never opens the web interface or the Orbi app, there is no mechanism that can be used to inform the customer of new firmware.
If the new firmware was properly debugged before release, I would be more sympathetic to Netgear's position. As recent experience has shown, I think the customer should take responsibility for when (and if) to update firmware.
- mbreksopNov 02, 2021Star
I used to love my ORBI, as a matter of fact, i helped several of my friends and families to purchase this product over other mesh wifi like Google and such.
But this behavior makes me think thrice to recommend Orbi to other people.....
Yes, the last 2.7.3.22 broke Live Streaming at my in-laws Church during heavy bandwidth... several times.