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Noroddveien
Feb 13, 2019Apprentice
IGMP Snooping
Hi, in my home network, I have a 2018 Orbi RBR50 router and have set it up with IGMP Proxying. However, I cannot find a setting for IGMP Snooping. I understand that IGMP Snooping is necessary for eff...
Noroddveien
Mar 11, 2019Apprentice
For additional info, I am attaching a dump of the ISP router´s configuration file (Zyxel 8702N). IPTV functions the way it is suppose to with this setup. The information in the file is beyond my capabilty to interpret. Perhaps there is a setting there that explains why IPTV works with the ISP router but not flawlessy with the Orbi.
ekhalil
Mar 11, 2019Master
Noroddveien wrote:
For additional info, I am attaching a dump of the ISP router´s configuration file (Zyxel 8702N). .....
Thanks for the info. The ifconfig command just shows the available interfaces in the router, their status and capabilities.
The only useful thing I see in this config information is that interface en0 (which I guess is your WAN port) has VLAN_HWTAGGING which gives an indication that the Zyxel router is using VLAN tagging (may be pre-configured?) to direct multicast traffic towards the IPTV box.
Noroddveien have you tried the suggestion in this post? That is connecting the IPTV box to a LAN port in Orbi, configure a VLAN on it and activating IGMP Proxy in WAN Setup. Or do you want the IPTV to only be attached wirelessly to Orbi?
- schumakuMar 12, 2019Guru - Experienced User
ekhalil wrote:
Or do you want the IPTV to only be attached wirelessly to Orbi?
...or wired to an Orbi satellite?
...with the Orbi satellite connected direct to a wired-only backhaul?
...with the Orbi satellite connected direct to a wireless backhaul?
...with the Orbi satellite connected mixed config backhaul?I fear all this would require a proper IGMP Multicast handling over the complete system - strongly doubt there is anything the like. In my opinion, and with the eye on the very fast deploying IGMP Multicast based live IPTV solutions, a bigger design error.
- ekhalilMar 12, 2019Master
schumaku wrote:
...or wired to an Orbi satellite?
...with the Orbi satellite connected direct to a wired-only backhaul?
...with the Orbi satellite connected direct to a wireless backhaul?
...with the Orbi satellite connected mixed config backhaul?I fear all this would require a proper IGMP Multicast handling over the complete system - strongly doubt there is anything the like. In my opinion, and with the eye on the very fast deploying IGMP Multicast based live IPTV solutions, a bigger design error.
I agree that the VLAN implementation is currently limited in Orbi and still needs to cover wireless connectivity as well as being extended to the Satellites and not limited to Router's LAN.
- schumakuMar 12, 2019Guru - Experienced User
No word of VLAN. I'm just talking of a proper ICMP Multicast implementation on the LAN side - a LAN implemented and backed by an Orbi solution. Granted, the ISP might run their IPTV traffic on a dedicated VLAN - but once it's on the users NATed LAN, it's no longer VLANed. Just to avoid more confusion 8-)
Even if reading the supplied documentation forth and back, I can't see any indications which kind of set-up are supposed on the user LAN side to work with this IGMP Proxy resp, the customized IGMP for BT. Can't find any related KB entries, too. Reads like yet another barely tested, or Beta tested feature. Gee Netgear, shame on you! So where are the project and product line manager here please?
- NoroddveienMar 12, 2019Apprentice
I did at one point try to set my Orbi up with VLAN but couldn´t get it to work. I have no idea of which VLAN ID or priority to use. Later, I discovered that the ISP router is not set up with VLAN. See additional info I scanned from the ISP router settings (while not connected to the Internet). My IPTV set up box (STB) uses ethernet only connection (no wifi).
- ekhalilMar 12, 2019Master
Noroddveien wrote:
I did at one point try to set my Orbi up with VLAN but couldn´t get it to work. I have no idea of which VLAN ID or priority to use. Later, I discovered that the ISP router is not set up with VLAN. See additional info I scanned from the ISP router settings (while not connected to the Internet). My IPTV set up box (STB) uses ethernet only connection (no wifi).
Thanks for sharing the router configuration. You are right, it seems that there is no VLAN configiration in the router.
Can you please check the network settings in the IPTV STB. Isn't there any VLAN or IGMP settings?
- ProZacMar 26, 2019Tutor
Just to clarify to the questions above, the Norwegian (and most Swedish/Danish that I have tested) ISP's are running clean IGMP Snooping in blocking with no VLAN tagging what so ever. This is by far the simplest way to run it aswell. (some older PPP xDSL solutions might need it doh)
Should think this would be an easy addon to the already existing SW running on the ORBI's?
Most of the large ISP's in Norway (where I live), never use any VLAN tagging. This has been testet on several different models, I even tested this before writing this post to make sure nothing was changed. Asus RT router, simply by enabling IGMP proxy and snooping and the TV works on all LAN ports. Tested this with two different ISP's, both works fine. No VLAN tagging or other changes was made.
- NoroddveienMar 31, 2019Apprentice
I checked the STB (ADB-5743CDX) but couldn’t see any VLAN og IGMP settings there at all. There was something described as MHP-profile=Enhanced Broadcast but I have no idea what that is.
- ProZacMar 31, 2019Tutor
Yeah they are what u can call dumb stbs, it's a good thing in a way that the CPE will sort everything, but then when u get a CPE withouth the settins, u are kinda stuck. Never seen a norwegian STB with vlan tagging in the box.
- NoroddveienMar 31, 2019Apprentice
Thanks, ProZac, I think you hit the nail on the head here.
No VLAN tagging - only IGMP proxy and snooping (blocking mode).
I definitely hope NG updates the RBR50 firmware soon.
Wouldn’t think NG wants to lag behind others here.
In the meantime, I have set up the ISP router in bridge mode, deactivated DHCP and connected it to my RBR50 router. I can then keep my home network as before but connect the TV to the ISP router.
However, it forces me to use the ISP router which I want to avoid.
- RapidgoronApr 19, 2019Aspirant
Hi, I am landing here through the search engine, I have a bluesound streaming multi room devices, and I have some struggle to have constant quality. I raised the concern with Bluesound and the suggest me to make some changes in the my orbi config.
- IGMP snooping should be on (as it groups the device broadcasting multicast traffic with ...).
- Also Multicast should be on
QOS and WMM shoud be fully disabled.
Wireless band steering should be fully disable
Wireless isolation should be fully disable
I only manage to disable WMM but do not know how to for IGMP, Multticast, band steering and wireless isolation.
Any chance to get some helps from you ?
Thanks
olivier