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StevieRuss
Jan 03, 2023Aspirant
Odd mesh setup confusion on my part
Okay so this is an odd one. We've had an RBK50 and RBS50 mesh in our house for a few years now. It's been great despite the construction of our house (1930s British engineering brick based ) being al...
- Jan 04, 2023
You can only use the RBR40 in AP or router mode.
RBS20, RBS40v, RBS50, EX7700 and EX8000 have ethernet ports.
A non orbi router configured for AP mode can work as well.
StevieRuss
Jan 06, 2023Aspirant
There are actually two feeds in to the garden. One that used to run to the old air raid shelter which is now been knocked down and replaced with the workshop and the other to an old pond pump which I isolated some years back.
The main feed to the workshop is run from the house consumer unit via its own RCBO (not yet fitted). It was like that when we bought the house and was fitted by an electrical company who I forget the name of though we have a pile of paperwork that came with the house and the receipt was in there (granted quite old now). The underground cable is 4mm SWA.
As you may know in the Uk, three phase runs L1 to one house L2 to the next house L3 to the next house and so on down the street. This means that every house on L1 is actually electrically linked and not entirely isolated which means that an unencrypted power line adapter could actually be connected in other houses on the same phase. Granted the noise would probably make it useless but the connection is kind of there.
As far as the law is concerned, I believe the only item that needs to be addressed is that of exporting the earth from the main building. That can require an earth rod to be fitted at the external building IF it is metal structured (ours is wood) although I don't believe that earth rods offer as solid an earth compared to what is supplied by the grid. I think they can be over 50ohms whereas the grid supply is likely under 1ohm. This is certainly the case with generators we use in the field as there is no other option but to use a copper rod hammered in to the ground.
In our case, I believe that using the earth from the main building (and earthing the armoured sleeve) is absolutely fine. The overall length of the SWA is up towards 30 meters from consumer unit to consumer unit and as the feed runs to another consumer unit rather than to a socket (outlet) then you do not require an RCBO at the house but personally I think it may isolate faults in the workshop from the house's main RCD which would hopefully only throw the RCBO rather than the whole house's 30amp RCD or ideally just the local RCD in the workshops consumer unit.
michaelkenward
Jan 06, 2023Guru - Experienced User
StevieRuss wrote:
Granted the noise would probably make it useless but the connection is kind of there.
That is the problem, which is what I said.
The signal may pass through, but at a greatly reduced level.
I speak from experience, not from any theoretical understanding.
The Powerline link to my office is, as you say, useless.
- StevieRussJan 06, 2023AspirantSure. Much appreciate your opinion. I’ve found that power line adapters can actually be functional but from my experience, that depends on the house wiring. Our current house is much worse than our last one so I’m not holding a huge amount of hope though I don’t need the full speed down there. Just enough for some internet radio and connection to some devices etc.
Many thanks.- michaelkenwardJan 06, 2023Guru - Experienced User
StevieRuss wrote:
I’ve found that power line adapters can actually be functional but from my experience, that depends on the house wiring.Yup.
My office is near enough to make Mesh WiFi an option. I am playing with that now.
Fortunately, I have two separate WiFi services for office and home, but one day I hope to save the cost of the second subscription.
- StevieRussJan 06, 2023AspirantSure. I’ve never lived in a house with such poor transmission between rooms. Just extending the mesh would be far easier. Happy new year 👍