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Orbi backhaul simply not working, about to ditch it
About to trought out this very exspensive system as it simply never works. Got a simple system, one router one satalitle. The satelite is 90cm horizontally and 230cm (one floor) above the router...
OK, thanks for all the suggestions.
My flat is a "very normal" construction with a 10cm concrete floor between the router and satellite.
When I set it up, it goes through the correct “lights” cycle and turns blue after a minute, this is corroborated with the “Good” status on web and app interface. It works fine for a number of hours and has acceptable throughput. The status on the Web and App to then change to “poor”. When the status change to “poor” throughput nearly disappear.
Thanks for the comment that the satellite may be to close and causing interference I have set the “Transmit Power Control” to 25% (50% did not make a difference) and that resulted in the status changing to “Good”. Let’s see if it stays like that.
I will also try to move the satellite further away to see if I can replicate this.
PS, seems to be a very common problem.
2bAlive wrote:OK, thanks for all the suggestions.
My flat is a "very normal" construction with a 10cm concrete floor between the router and satellite.
that's very likely to be your problem. Cement tends to be the best blocker of wifi. and floor concrete tends to have more reinforcing metal (rods).
https://eyenetworks.no/en/wifi-signal-loss-by-material/
2bAlive wrote:OK, thanks for all the suggestions.
My flat is a "very normal" construction with a 10cm concrete floor between the router and satellite.
When I set it up, it goes through the correct “lights” cycle and turns blue after a minute, this is corroborated with the “Good” status on web and app interface. It works fine for a number of hours and has acceptable throughput. The status on the Web and App to then change to “poor”. When the status change to “poor” throughput nearly disappear.
Thanks for the comment that the satellite may be to close and causing interference I have set the “Transmit Power Control” to 25% (50% did not make a difference) and that resulted in the status changing to “Good”. Let’s see if it stays like that.
I will also try to move the satellite further away to see if I can replicate this.
So embarassed about my math error. The satellite is almost exactly above the router, correct?
My understanding is that the Transmit Power setting does not apply to the backhaul link between router and satellite, affecting only the power of the User radios.
Concrete does indeed block radio signals more than wood. My impression is that this effect would be present from the initial connection. i.e. if the signal is strong enough to rate "good", then it should "stay good".
While having Orbi units too close together is not recommended, I think that has more to do with (a) the user facing radios interfering with each other, and (b) effectively not expanding the total area of coverage. I would still like to see a brief experiment of having the satellite in the same room as the router and measure how long before the backhaul turns "poor".
My understanding is that the Transmit Power setting does not apply to the backhaul link between router and satellite, affecting only the power of the User radios.---that's my understanding as well.
Concrete does indeed block radio signals more than wood. My impression is that this effect would be present from the initial connection. i.e. if the signal is strong enough to rate "good", then it should "stay good".----but if turning down the transmit power reduced interference, maybe thats why it did help the signal strength. Or maybe a different router happened to be broadcasting on the same spectrum and switched after the power reduction. Tough to say exactly. But 10cm concrete is significant for blocking wifi and affecting that backhaul.
While having Orbi units too close together is not recommended, I think that has more to do with (a) the user facing radios interfering with each other, and (b) effectively not expanding the total area of coverage. I would still like to see a brief experiment of having the satellite in the same room as the router and measure how long before the backhaul turns "poor".---My understand is it also causes issues with smart roaming as well. which is why it needs to distance.
plemans wrote:I would still like to see a brief experiment of having the satellite in the same room as the router and measure how long before the backhaul turns "poor".---My understand is it also causes issues with smart roaming as well. which is why it needs to distance.
Yes, roaming would be very confusing with two Orbi's in the same room. I remain hung up on the idea of having a "good" connection for hours and then suddenly turning "poor". I was going off on a crazy tangent regarding the backhaul channel and weather/military radars.
Backhaul channels differ by country, and I have a suspicion that this Orbi in not in North America.
