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AmitR
Mar 23, 2018NETGEAR Employee Retired
Orbi MR 2.1 Update 3/23/18
Our teams are still working through the issues, but I wanted to provide a quick update on OrbiOS 2.1. We usually wait to release our software until it's available across all Orbi product lines, but ...
Havok_
Apr 04, 2018Star
Just want to put it out there that I do use this sytem in Router mode, but I have it behind my ATT router (the ATT wireless is turned off and mine is hard wired to it and hands out wireless to the house on the 10.0.0.x network).
It's too bad this site doesn't have an option for user surveys. It'd be helpful if we knew problems were predominantly on systems in an early mfg run and/or how they were set up. Mine was purchased from Amazon at end of June 2017.
FURRYe38
Apr 04, 2018Guru - Experienced User
I recommend using the modems DMZ for your Orbi router while in router mode. This will help with any double NAT issues.
Yes, the reason your Orbi router sets up 10.x.x.x is that your ISP modems is using the same default 192.168.1.1 that most NG routers use. So during setup, the wizard will change the NG routers IP address pool to not conflict with the modesm IP address pool. You can change from 10.x.x.x to 192.168.0.1 if you like.
Havok_wrote:Just want to put it out there that I do use this sytem in Router mode, but I have it behind my ATT router (the ATT wireless is turned off and mine is hard wired to it and hands out wireless to the house on the 10.0.0.x network).
It's too bad this site doesn't have an option for user surveys. It'd be helpful if we knew problems were predominantly on systems in an early mfg run and/or how they were set up. Mine was purchased from Amazon at end of June 2017.
- Havok_Apr 04, 2018Star
FURRYe38, thanks for the tip. I should have clarified. I'm not having any issues at all so far. Everything works great for me (knock on wood).
Still, I like the idea of placing the Orbi in DMZ since it's handling NAT anyway. Thanks!
- FURRYe38Apr 04, 2018Guru - Experienced User
Ya you'll be fine to use the DMZ. If your not seeing any other issues. Don't reset for now.
Havok_wrote:FURRYe38, thanks for the tip. I should have clarified. I'm not having any issues at all so far. Everything works great for me (knock on wood).
Still, I like the idea of placing the Orbi in DMZ since it's handling NAT anyway. Thanks!
- bryandmleeApr 06, 2018Apprentice
Hi FURRYe38, I want to put my Orbi in router mode (currently in AP mode) but I have a mandatory ISP-issued router, which I can't set in bridge mode. Does using the ISP router's DMZ for my Orbi while in router mode mean adding the 10.0.0.1 to the DMZ? Or do I assign/set a 192.168.1.x IP to the Orbi (from the ISP router?), then add this IP to the ISP router DMZ instead?
And are there any risks to using the Orbi in the ISP router's DMZ?
FURRYe38 wrote:I recommend using the modems DMZ for your Orbi router while in router mode. This will help with any double NAT issues.
Yes, the reason your Orbi router sets up 10.x.x.x is that your ISP modems is using the same default 192.168.1.1 that most NG routers use. So during setup, the wizard will change the NG routers IP address pool to not conflict with the modesm IP address pool. You can change from 10.x.x.x to 192.168.0.1 if you like.
- FURRYe38Apr 06, 2018Guru - Experienced User
What is the IP address the Orbi gets from the ISP modem when in router mode on the Orbi? What ever this IP address is, input this address into the ISP modems DMZ. This should be different from the LAN side IP address seen when you connect a device to the Orbi router. I would also set up a IP address reservation ON the ISP modem for Orbi so it's address doesn't change.
The DMZ puts the Orbi router on the front lines just like any other router behind a modem, it's get public IP addressing traffic, however since the Orbi also has a firewall, your safe to use the DMZ. Would be same thing as having a modem with out a built in router and using the Orbi router. This works well. I have used this before setting up two routers on the same network when the modem can't be fully bridged. Thats one reason why the DMZ is there.
bryandmlee wrote:Hi FURRYe38, I want to put my Orbi in router mode (currently in AP mode) but I have a mandatory ISP-issued router, which I can't set in bridge mode. Does using the ISP router's DMZ for my Orbi while in router mode mean adding the 10.0.0.1 to the DMZ? Or do I assign/set a 192.168.1.x IP to the Orbi (from the ISP router?), then add this IP to the ISP router DMZ instead?
And are there any risks to using the Orbi in the ISP router's DMZ?
FURRYe38 wrote:I recommend using the modems DMZ for your Orbi router while in router mode. This will help with any double NAT issues.
Yes, the reason your Orbi router sets up 10.x.x.x is that your ISP modems is using the same default 192.168.1.1 that most NG routers use. So during setup, the wizard will change the NG routers IP address pool to not conflict with the modesm IP address pool. You can change from 10.x.x.x to 192.168.0.1 if you like.
- bryandmleeApr 07, 2018Apprentice
Thank you for the information! I believe I have set it up properly now:
The Orbi gets a 192.168.1.x IP from the ISP modem/router, and I have reserved that IP for the Orbi on the ISP modem/router and placed that IP into the ISP modem/router's DMZ.
The LAN side IP address for the Orbi is the default alternative of 10.0.0.x, so that's what my devices are getting too.
This should be correct, yes? (And do I/should I set the same static 192.168.1.x for the Internet IP Address under the Internet Setup section in the Orbi firmware, or is it better to leave it as "Get Dynamically from ISP"?)
FURRYe38 wrote:What is the IP address the Orbi gets from the ISP modem when in router mode on the Orbi? What ever this IP address is, input this address into the ISP modems DMZ. This should be different from the LAN side IP address seen when you connect a device to the Orbi router. I would also set up a IP address reservation ON the ISP modem for Orbi so it's address doesn't change.
The DMZ puts the Orbi router on the front lines just like any other router behind a modem, it's get public IP addressing traffic, however since the Orbi also has a firewall, your safe to use the DMZ. Would be same thing as having a modem with out a built in router and using the Orbi router. This works well. I have used this before setting up two routers on the same network when the modem can't be fully bridged. Thats one reason why the DMZ is there.
bryandmlee wrote:Hi FURRYe38, I want to put my Orbi in router mode (currently in AP mode) but I have a mandatory ISP-issued router, which I can't set in bridge mode. Does using the ISP router's DMZ for my Orbi while in router mode mean adding the 10.0.0.1 to the DMZ? Or do I assign/set a 192.168.1.x IP to the Orbi (from the ISP router?), then add this IP to the ISP router DMZ instead?
And are there any risks to using the Orbi in the ISP router's DMZ?
FURRYe38 wrote:I recommend using the modems DMZ for your Orbi router while in router mode. This will help with any double NAT issues.
Yes, the reason your Orbi router sets up 10.x.x.x is that your ISP modems is using the same default 192.168.1.1 that most NG routers use. So during setup, the wizard will change the NG routers IP address pool to not conflict with the modesm IP address pool. You can change from 10.x.x.x to 192.168.0.1 if you like.