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Orbi MR 2.1 Update 3/23/18
Our teams are still working through the issues, but I wanted to provide a quick update on OrbiOS 2.1. We usually wait to release our software until it's available across all Orbi product lines, but ...
What is the IP address the Orbi gets from the ISP modem when in router mode on the Orbi? What ever this IP address is, input this address into the ISP modems DMZ. This should be different from the LAN side IP address seen when you connect a device to the Orbi router. I would also set up a IP address reservation ON the ISP modem for Orbi so it's address doesn't change.
The DMZ puts the Orbi router on the front lines just like any other router behind a modem, it's get public IP addressing traffic, however since the Orbi also has a firewall, your safe to use the DMZ. Would be same thing as having a modem with out a built in router and using the Orbi router. This works well. I have used this before setting up two routers on the same network when the modem can't be fully bridged. Thats one reason why the DMZ is there.
bryandmlee wrote:Hi FURRYe38, I want to put my Orbi in router mode (currently in AP mode) but I have a mandatory ISP-issued router, which I can't set in bridge mode. Does using the ISP router's DMZ for my Orbi while in router mode mean adding the 10.0.0.1 to the DMZ? Or do I assign/set a 192.168.1.x IP to the Orbi (from the ISP router?), then add this IP to the ISP router DMZ instead?
And are there any risks to using the Orbi in the ISP router's DMZ?
FURRYe38 wrote:I recommend using the modems DMZ for your Orbi router while in router mode. This will help with any double NAT issues.
Yes, the reason your Orbi router sets up 10.x.x.x is that your ISP modems is using the same default 192.168.1.1 that most NG routers use. So during setup, the wizard will change the NG routers IP address pool to not conflict with the modesm IP address pool. You can change from 10.x.x.x to 192.168.0.1 if you like.
Thank you for the information! I believe I have set it up properly now:
The Orbi gets a 192.168.1.x IP from the ISP modem/router, and I have reserved that IP for the Orbi on the ISP modem/router and placed that IP into the ISP modem/router's DMZ.
The LAN side IP address for the Orbi is the default alternative of 10.0.0.x, so that's what my devices are getting too.
This should be correct, yes? (And do I/should I set the same static 192.168.1.x for the Internet IP Address under the Internet Setup section in the Orbi firmware, or is it better to leave it as "Get Dynamically from ISP"?)
FURRYe38 wrote:What is the IP address the Orbi gets from the ISP modem when in router mode on the Orbi? What ever this IP address is, input this address into the ISP modems DMZ. This should be different from the LAN side IP address seen when you connect a device to the Orbi router. I would also set up a IP address reservation ON the ISP modem for Orbi so it's address doesn't change.
The DMZ puts the Orbi router on the front lines just like any other router behind a modem, it's get public IP addressing traffic, however since the Orbi also has a firewall, your safe to use the DMZ. Would be same thing as having a modem with out a built in router and using the Orbi router. This works well. I have used this before setting up two routers on the same network when the modem can't be fully bridged. Thats one reason why the DMZ is there.
bryandmlee wrote:Hi FURRYe38, I want to put my Orbi in router mode (currently in AP mode) but I have a mandatory ISP-issued router, which I can't set in bridge mode. Does using the ISP router's DMZ for my Orbi while in router mode mean adding the 10.0.0.1 to the DMZ? Or do I assign/set a 192.168.1.x IP to the Orbi (from the ISP router?), then add this IP to the ISP router DMZ instead?
And are there any risks to using the Orbi in the ISP router's DMZ?
FURRYe38 wrote:I recommend using the modems DMZ for your Orbi router while in router mode. This will help with any double NAT issues.
Yes, the reason your Orbi router sets up 10.x.x.x is that your ISP modems is using the same default 192.168.1.1 that most NG routers use. So during setup, the wizard will change the NG routers IP address pool to not conflict with the modesm IP address pool. You can change from 10.x.x.x to 192.168.0.1 if you like.
Yes you have this correct.
As long as you set a reserved IP address for the Orbi router ON the modem, you can leave the Orbi set to Dynamic.
Enjoy now. :smileywink:
bryandmlee wrote:Thank you for the information! I believe I have set it up properly now:
The Orbi gets a 192.168.1.x IP from the ISP modem/router, and I have reserved that IP for the Orbi on the ISP modem/router and placed that IP into the ISP modem/router's DMZ.
The LAN side IP address for the Orbi is the default alternative of 10.0.0.x, so that's what my devices are getting too.
This should be correct, yes? (And do I/should I set the same static 192.168.1.x for the Internet IP Address under the Internet Setup section in the Orbi firmware, or is it better to leave it as "Get Dynamically from ISP"?)
Thanks again, FURRYe38! Yup, my Orbi system is working all right—with 2.1.3.4 firmware, and Ethernet backhaul. :smileyhappy:
In case anyone is interested, these were my steps in setting up my RBK50:
1) Update satellite and router to 2.1.3.4
2) Paperclip restart satellite, then router
3) Set up the Orbi system (with default wireless backhaul) using orbilogin.com on desktop browser, connected to router via Ethernet cable
4) Once router and satellite are set up with wireless backhaul, plug in respective Ethernet cables at leftmost LAN ports on router and satellite. Wait a few minutes for Orbi system to reconfigure itself to Ethernet backhaul.
Optional: 5) Once Ethernet backhaul is established, I powered off all three devices, and then on again in the usual order of ISP modem, wait two minutes then Orbi router and finally Orbi satellite—just to be extra sure the Orbi system has been set up correctly and the three devices all know what they're supposed to be doing. Wait a few minutes for the whole system to settle down and the Ethernet backhaul status to show as Good again.
I know a number of users have been having trouble getting their Orbi systems working properly (whether with earlier firmware versions or this 2.1.3.4); perhaps these steps might be useful for someone out there!
- Thanks for sharing.
It's pathetic paying customers have to come up with step-by-step tutorials like yours.
However, how is your router to modem? In addition, lease specify 'left most LAN port'
Million thanks,
Volker
