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d4dr0ck
Mar 21, 2019Tutor
Orbi Outdoor Satellite Used to Work, Now Does Not
 Greetings friends - any helpful ideas would be most welcome.  Details below, but in short, I'm trying to get an Outdoor Satellite to reliably work. 
   
 The setup in the house is cable modem to the ...
- Mar 22, 2019Ok, the first thing I would do would be to manually update to most current firmware. You have a mish-mash of older versions which have known backhaul issues. 
 Do the satellites first. RBS50s should be updated to version .32.Regarding your router... you will have to update that to an intermediate version before going to the final version which is .32. The reason is because the newest firmware image is larger than the RBR50 used to allow. The intermediate version changes that parameter and allows you to load the final (larger version). Here is the RBR50 Intermediate Firmware link: https://kb.netgear.com/000060612/RBR50-RBS50-Firmware-Version-2-2-1-212 Here is the RBR Objective/final Firmware link (V.32) http://www.downloads.netgear.com/files/GDC/RBK50/RBR50-V2.3.0.32.zip Your "Y" is at the most current version so leave that alone. Your RBW30 should be updated to 2.3.0.4. Here is the update link http://www.downloads.netgear.com/files/GDC/RBW30/RBW30-V2.3.0.4_1.0.5.zip You can always bookmark the Netgear Download Center: https://www.netgear.com/support/download/ forfirmware versions. After completing your firmware updates of satellites and then router... I recommend doing a factory reset to clear out any odd settings or whatnot that might have followed you. Then setup your router and make the SSID and password what it was before so all your devices join without having to reconfigure. I think at the end of the day some of your stuff was running pretty outdated firmware so this should help at least with stability and backhaul. I also think that when you reset it rejoins 2.4 and 5g. You have already configured your IOT devices so they should fall right back in where they belong as long as you use the exact same SSID and password as before. WIFI analyzer is indeed a phone app. You might want to load one and check out if anyone is stepping on your channels you are using Message me or post on here if you have any questions. 
Chuck_M
Mar 21, 2019Mentor
Can you tell us the versions of firmware in each device? (the specific numbers)
Are you using daisychain or is your topology hub and spoke? (e.g. are all satellites reporting back to the router or going through each other?)
Any satellites hard wired?
And what is the equipment your router is connected to? (make/model)
You know if you reset your router and then make the SSID and PW the same as before at configuration, all your devices should connect with no issue. They would have no idea the router and satellites were reset.
What does the Radio Frequency (RF) environment there look like? A lot of other signals or out in the country? Can you run a wifi analyzer and tell us what you see on 2.4 and 5g?
- d4dr0ckMar 21, 2019TutorHi Chuck. Thanks for the reply. Here’s the firmware:
 RBR50: 2.2.1.210
 RBS50Y: 2.2.1.204
 RBW30: 2.2.1.204
 RBS50: 2.2.1.210
 I haven’t done anything to specify daisy chain vs hub & spoke, but it appears to be hub and spoke. I think as I’ve been playing around with it I may have seen something daisychained, but I don’t recall what that was, and that’s not common.
 The only thing that’s hardwired is the router. The satellites are all wireless.
 The modem is Comcast’s; DPC3939. [Edit: This is in Bridge mode.]
 I wasn’t sure about that with resetting the entire system, so thanks. This also reminds me that I’ve - following instructions I’ve found here - don’t something to the router so that it broadcasts different networks for 5 and 2.4; this was necessary for some of my IoT devices. That’s still in effect. Would you say a full reset of everything is likely to help?
 I’m in a suburb immediately adjacent to a Chicago. I’d guess there is plenty of RF around. Not sure about the WiFi analyzer - is that an app for a phone?- Chuck_MMar 22, 2019MentorOk, the first thing I would do would be to manually update to most current firmware. You have a mish-mash of older versions which have known backhaul issues. 
 Do the satellites first. RBS50s should be updated to version .32.Regarding your router... you will have to update that to an intermediate version before going to the final version which is .32. The reason is because the newest firmware image is larger than the RBR50 used to allow. The intermediate version changes that parameter and allows you to load the final (larger version). Here is the RBR50 Intermediate Firmware link: https://kb.netgear.com/000060612/RBR50-RBS50-Firmware-Version-2-2-1-212 Here is the RBR Objective/final Firmware link (V.32) http://www.downloads.netgear.com/files/GDC/RBK50/RBR50-V2.3.0.32.zip Your "Y" is at the most current version so leave that alone. Your RBW30 should be updated to 2.3.0.4. Here is the update link http://www.downloads.netgear.com/files/GDC/RBW30/RBW30-V2.3.0.4_1.0.5.zip You can always bookmark the Netgear Download Center: https://www.netgear.com/support/download/ forfirmware versions. After completing your firmware updates of satellites and then router... I recommend doing a factory reset to clear out any odd settings or whatnot that might have followed you. Then setup your router and make the SSID and password what it was before so all your devices join without having to reconfigure. I think at the end of the day some of your stuff was running pretty outdated firmware so this should help at least with stability and backhaul. I also think that when you reset it rejoins 2.4 and 5g. You have already configured your IOT devices so they should fall right back in where they belong as long as you use the exact same SSID and password as before. WIFI analyzer is indeed a phone app. You might want to load one and check out if anyone is stepping on your channels you are using Message me or post on here if you have any questions. - d4dr0ckMar 22, 2019TutorThank you so much for all of this - super helpful. I'll start with the firmware updates tonight. Might not tackle the reset until the weekend, so that I'm not scrambling into the wee hours if something goes bad. But on the topic of a reset, we're talking about resetting the router, and each of the satellites, right? Any particular order you'd add the satellites back in?