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ShankarHokie
Feb 23, 2020Apprentice
Orbi RBK53 system: Should I wire new home for ethernet ??
I have an Orbi RBK53s system with an RBR50 router & 2 RBS50 satellites. They are mated to an Arris SB8200 modem for the Xfinity 600Mbps plan. The satellites are paired to the router wirelessly. ...
tomschmidt
Feb 23, 2020Virtuoso
A wired backhaul will be more stable and faster than the wireless backhaul. I recommend CAT7 cable for the current best network cable. If possible, it could be in conduit to be replaced easily with future upgrades, but that of course would be more expense.
CrimpOn
Feb 23, 2020Guru - Experienced User
Oh, my. YES. If the walls are open, have Cat6 cable pulled to anyplace you might consider locating electronics (TV's, computers, security cameras, WiFi access points). I, personally, would skip the ceilings. A home is not like a hospital or office building where people think nothing of ugly devices attached to the ceilings.
Wired connections are ALWAYS superior to wireless. They are more stable, faster, and more secure. Once the walls are closed up, you will regret not installing ethernet cables when you had the chance.
Also, the "hub" where these cables all come together needs to have space to mount the patch panel, an ethernet switch, and the router, plus electrical outlets to support them. And, it can't be a sealed closet with no ventilation.
- ShankarHokieFeb 23, 2020Apprentice
Thanks. I am going to be forceful not to have it on the ceiling. It looks ugly, especially if I'm not going to use it.
I would like to understand this comment:
"Also, the "hub" where these cables all come together needs to have space to mount the patch panel, an ethernet switch, and the router, plus electrical outlets to support them. And, it can't be a sealed closet with no ventilation"I expect this modem & the RBR50 router will be in the basement in an open area. I plan to have 3 cat6 runs to 3 spots in the house. Those will plug into the back of the RBR50 in the basement and terminate in these 3 spots for connecting my RBS50 satellites.
Will I still need a patch panel & a ethernet switch?
- tomschmidtFeb 23, 2020Virtuoso
I would also run CAT6 cables to where your entertainment center is located, as SmartTVs and Bluray players can use a wired connection instead of a WiFi connection where possible. A den/office may benefit from a wired connection too for a PC or laptop dock and printer. You can place a small 4 port gigabit hub at these endpoints if you have more than one system that can use a wired connection. Wired LAN will always be faster and more reliable than a WiFi connection.
When it was mentioned having a comm closet for your modem, router, and network switch, the network switch there would be for multiple wired connections distributed throughout your house. I have this at my home, but it is in the utility room where my water heater and furnace are as well. I have a 16 port unmanaged network switch to distribute wired connections to my office PC and latop dock, entertainment center, printer, NAS storage, solar panel monitor, etc. One of my two RBS50 satelites uses a wired backhaul from there.
- CrimpOnFeb 23, 2020Guru - Experienced User
ShankarHokie wrote:Will I still need a patch panel & a ethernet switch?
Yes. It is the "neat and tidy" way to do this. Just as the ethernet cables terminate in jacks at the appliance end, they also should terminate in jacks at the hub. Also, the ethernet cables need to be tested after installation. Testers need to be plugged into jacks on each end.
This is the time to "think ahead", especially if the house is two-story. While the walls are open, it is almost trivial to run low voltage cables anywhere. Sort of, "have drill, will travel." Another reason to reject WiFi access points stuck to the ceiling: electronics change all the time. No matter what they are today, they will be obsolete in five years.
Also, think about these questions:
- What if one of the family decided to go into internet gaming? How do I get enough bandwidth to that room?
- What if today's bedroom becomes an office in 10 years?
- What if I switch WiFi brands and want to have four satellites instead of one?
- What if we get a new "8K" television and it doesn't get good WiFi?
- What if I want to install security cameras in the future? How do I get Power over Ethernet cables to them?
- When we unexpectedly have to move and prospective buyers ask, "why isn't there ethernet to THIS room?"
I SO envy you the ability to "wire" a new house from the beginning.
- ShankarHokieMar 08, 2020Apprentice
The builder will only do cat6.
Home is 2 floors + basement. I have one router & 2 satellite. I will buy a third satellite.
The router has 3 Ethernet ports & the satellites have 4 Ethernet ports.
I am going to ask for cat6 connections to my first floor home office, first floor entertainment center, second floor home theater
I plan to place the router in the basement and connect RJ45 cables from the back of the router to the jacks that terminate in the basement. Then I plan to connect the satellite at the 3 locations mentioned above.
The I plan to connect my Dish receiver, blu-ray player, to the back of one satellite in the first floor
My desktop, printer, my wife's laptop to the back of the second satellite in the first floor
My projector, dish receiver, blu ray player to the third satellite in the second floor.
Any flaws in this plan?
- FURRYe38Feb 24, 2020Guru - Experienced User
I would recommend placing the RBR at the main floor or 2nd floor if possible. Basements are not recommended for the RBR. You can place RBS in the basements for final signal coverage. Concrete and metal in basment foundations will reduce wifi signals coming from the basement so you want to keep the main wifi on the main floor. If this new home is being built, you might consider using CAT6A in walls then everything else CAT6. Something I did when I did a new addition to my home. It's nice to have all rooms wired for ethernet.
ShankarHokie wrote:Thanks. I am going to be forceful not to have it on the ceiling. It looks ugly, especially if I'm not going to use it.
I would like to understand this comment:
"Also, the "hub" where these cables all come together needs to have space to mount the patch panel, an ethernet switch, and the router, plus electrical outlets to support them. And, it can't be a sealed closet with no ventilation"I expect this modem & the RBR50 router will be in the basement in an open area. I plan to have 3 cat6 runs to 3 spots in the house. Those will plug into the back of the RBR50 in the basement and terminate in these 3 spots for connecting my RBS50 satellites.
Will I still need a patch panel & a ethernet switch?