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TXOrbi
Oct 02, 2019Aspirant
Orbi RBK53S Using 4X Data
I recently purchased the Orbi RBD53S-100NAS (Orbi router with two satellites) from Costco. This is connected to the Xfinity router capaple of gig speeds (Model CGM4140COM). I went through the steup...
TXOrbi
Oct 02, 2019Aspirant
Thanks for the reply. I have the xfinity router in router mode as i sometimes utilize the xfinity network when this one becomes problematic. Prior to using this new orbi setup, they have operated in harmony. Is the double NAT issue only apparent on this model perhaps? Do you think that by putting the xfinity router in bridge mode this will eliminate the excessive data usage? Finally, is there any downside or feathers I'll lose by running the Orbi in AP mode instead of router mode?
To answer your last question, yes, when I did the factory reset I rebooted and also powered down the xfinity router each time as well.
FURRYe38
Oct 02, 2019Guru - Experienced User
Ok, well you are in a double NAT condition, so anything could be possible here.
I would narrow down where the problem maybe coming from.
If you remove the Orbi from service, does the usage still happen?
Next, I would leave the ISP modem in router mode then configure the Orbi for AP mode. You'll loose featuers on the Orbi accept for Wifi and Guest Network is all.
Run this configuration for a while and check usage to see if this continues.
You might run just the RBR alone with the ISP modem in router mode.
Other alternative would be to bridge the ISP modem and configure the RBR for router mode and test again.
I would also check to see if there are any devices using up data unexpectedly. Turn OFF all devices if possible and run just a one or two.
- TXOrbiOct 02, 2019Aspirant
FURRYe38 wrote:Ok, well you are in a double NAT condition, so anything could be possible here.
I would narrow down where the problem maybe coming from. Certainly sounds like the doube NAT could casue excessive data usage, although I'm still not sure I understand why.
If you remove the Orbi from service, does the usage still happen? When the Orbi is removed from service, the excessive usage stops. In fact, i reconnected all of my devices to my xfinity router and things seem to be back in line, so it's definitely something the Orbi is causing.
Next, I would leave the ISP modem in router mode then configure the Orbi for AP mode. You'll loose featuers on the Orbi accept for Wifi and Guest Network is all. If I switch to AP mode, do I lose line of sight as to what is connected to the Orbi?
Run this configuration for a while and check usage to see if this continues.
You might run just the RBR alone with the ISP modem in router mode.
Other alternative would be to bridge the ISP modem and configure the RBR for router mode and test again.
I would also check to see if there are any devices using up data unexpectedly. Turn OFF all devices if possible and run just a one or two. Haven't had this issue in the past, but worth a shot I suppose.
- FURRYe38Oct 02, 2019Guru - Experienced User
TXOrbi wrote:
FURRYe38 wrote:Ok, well you are in a double NAT condition, so anything could be possible here.
I would narrow down where the problem maybe coming from. Certainly sounds like the doube NAT could casue excessive data usage, although I'm still not sure I understand why.
Lets try AP mode with the Orbi, then maybe swap around and bridge the modem and then set Orbi for router mode.
If you remove the Orbi from service, does the usage still happen? When the Orbi is removed from service, the excessive usage stops. In fact, i reconnected all of my devices to my xfinity router and things seem to be back in line, so it's definitely something the Orbi is causing.
Next, I would leave the ISP modem in router mode then configure the Orbi for AP mode. You'll loose featuers on the Orbi accept for Wifi and Guest Network is all. If I switch to AP mode, do I lose line of sight as to what is connected to the Orbi?
No, it will still list what is connected to the wifi on the Orbi.
Run this configuration for a while and check usage to see if this continues.
You might run just the RBR alone with the ISP modem in router mode.
Other alternative would be to bridge the ISP modem and configure the RBR for router mode and test again.
I would also check to see if there are any devices using up data unexpectedly. Turn OFF all devices if possible and run just a one or two. Haven't had this issue in the past, but worth a shot I suppose.
Let us know how it goes with the Orbi in AP mode.
What FW version is loaded on the Orbi system currently?
- CrimpOnOct 02, 2019Guru - Experienced User
I can confirm that the debug "capture" function does work and that Wireshark will display statistics on the "conversations" between specific IP addresses. On the WAN side, everything to/from the Orbi has the Orbi public IP address, so the main value is identifying where the most data comes from or goes to. This doesn't identify which devide inside the Orbi is involved, but may help provide a starting place.
The LAN side capture includes not only traffic that comes in/out of the Orbi, but also traffic between stations. My "top conversation", for example, was between my front door security camera and my FTP server.
When this new Orbi was installed, were Armor and/or Disney Circle activated?