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OrbiOwner20
Mar 27, 2020Follower
Orbi RBR40 and IoT VLAN
Hi, I’m looking to set up a separate VLAN for one of the wired ports on an RBR40 for IoT devices so they’re isolated from the rest of my Wired network and can just get out to the internet. After mu...
JohnSA
Jul 14, 2020Aspirant
An old thread but I'm wondering if I can do something a bit similar with my RBR50, i.e.
1. Set up a VLAN on one of the wired ports of the Orbi Router
2. On that port, set up another wireless router (non-Orbi router), which would have a static IP on the Orbi network, e.g. 192.168.1.250
3. The Orbi network devices (main and guest networks) would have an IP range of 192.168.1.x
4. The non-Orbi network devices would have a range (set via the non-Orbi router) of 192.168.2.x
5. My IoT devices (Google Homes, Chromecasts, Tasmota devices, SmartThings Hub) would be on the non-Orbi network (192.168.2.x), ideally able to communicate with each other as needed, and with the internet, but not with the devices on the Orbi network, i.e. 192.168.1.x
Can this be done with the Orbi RBR50 and some other router (e.g. if I dust off my trusty DGND3700)?
luckyaussiebob
Aug 24, 2020Aspirant
This is exactly what I am looking to do as well! Have you had any success JohnSA ?
I have an older archer C7 router that I was thinking to plug into my Orbi. Then use that archer as the IoT network. Keeping my main and guest networks seperate.
Just found out about the vlan and now I am more confused. If I can get a seperate '3rd' network from the existing Orbis that would be great.
- CrimpOnAug 24, 2020Guru - Experienced User
luckyaussiebob wrote:This is exactly what I am looking to do as well! Have you had any success JohnSA ?
I have an older archer C7 router that I was thinking to plug into my Orbi. Then use that archer as the IoT network. Keeping my main and guest networks seperate.
Just found out about the vlan and now I am more confused. If I can get a seperate '3rd' network from the existing Orbis that would be great.
The Orbi VLAN capability appears to be designed to support IPTV applications where television sets attached to one of the Orbi LAN ports are connected directly to the ISP without going through the Orbi NAT or firewall. IoT devices, which are almost always WiFi, also need to get an IP address using DHCP, which the Orbi VLAN does not provide.
- MstrbigAug 24, 2020Master
luckyaussiebob wrote:Just found out about the vlan and now I am more confused. If I can get a seperate '3rd' network from the existing Orbis that would be great.
If you are talking about a totally separate Subnet network, you can plug anothe Orbi router or any router for that matter, into one of the LAN ports of the Orbi router and set it up as a full DHCP server with wired and wireless capabilities. If properly configured, any device you connect to that router will be on its own network.
- CrimpOnAug 24, 2020Guru - Experienced User
Mstrbig wrote:
If you are talking about a totally separate Subnet network, you can plug anothe Orbi router or any router for that matter, into one of the LAN ports of the Orbi router and set it up as a full DHCP server with wired and wireless capabilities. If properly configured, any device you connect to that router will be on its own network.Mstrbigis correct. The practical issue is that customers purchased a mesh network (Orbi) because they needed more area covered than a single WiFi router could manage. Many IoT devices appear to contain inexpensive 2.4G radio chips because they transmit very little data. Perhaps a single WiFi router would "cover" enough area. Otherwise, this solution is going to require another mesh network.
The Orbi "Pro" product provides multiple SSIDs, including one specifically intended for IoT devices. (Four SSIDs total: administration, employee, IoT, and Guest).
- luckyaussiebobAug 24, 2020Aspirant
Mstrbig wrote:If you are talking about a totally separate Subnet network, you can plug anothe Orbi router or any router for that matter, into one of the LAN ports of the Orbi router and set it up as a full DHCP server with wired and wireless capabilities. If properly configured, any device you connect to that router will be on its own network.
Thank you! So if I understand you correctly, Take my old Archer router and plug it into my Orbi. Setup the Archer as a DHCP server (with wired and wireless) and then I can connect IoT devices to the Archer. Thus having my Orbi network, guest orbi network, and Archer IoT network. All this assuming the Archer provides enough coverage for the simple IoT devices.
- MstrbigAug 24, 2020Master
luckyaussiebob wrote:
Mstrbig wrote:If you are talking about a totally separate Subnet network, you can plug anothe Orbi router or any router for that matter, into one of the LAN ports of the Orbi router and set it up as a full DHCP server with wired and wireless capabilities. If properly configured, any device you connect to that router will be on its own network.
Thank you! So if I understand you correctly, Take my old Archer router and plug it into my Orbi. Setup the Archer as a DHCP server (with wired and wireless) and then I can connect IoT devices to the Archer. Thus having my Orbi network, guest orbi network, and Archer IoT network. All this assuming the Archer provides enough coverage for the simple IoT devices.
CORRECT.