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AIRgauge
Mar 10, 2020Aspirant
Orbi RBR/RBS50 not syncing and connected devices not showing
I'm currently running firmware version 2.5.1.8 on both the router and the satellite. Up until recently they were working reliably and the system has been great. Two things may have affected that and ...
AIRgauge
Mar 10, 2020Aspirant
What is the Mfr and model# of the ISP modem the NG router is connected too? CICSO DPC3849V - provided by my cable provider and our cable also runs through it.
What is the distance between the router and satellite(s)? 30 feet is recommended in between RBR and RBS to begin with depending upon building materials when wirelessly connected. https://kb.netgear.com/000036466/How-far-should-I-place-my-Orbi-satellite-from-my-Orbi-router
30 feet, separated by one floor, and always worked perfectly until now. When I plug the satellite in, it shows a blue circle after it connects to the network, but does not sync.
What channels are you using? Auto? Try setting manual channel 1, 6 or 11 on 2.4Ghz and any unused channel on 5Ghz.
Any Wifi Neighbors near by? If so, how many?
I have tried changing channels as you described but no luck. We have 9 wifi neighbours nearby.
Try enabling Beamforming and MIMO(MIMO may or maynot be needed) and WMM. Under Advanced Tab/Advanced Settings/Wireless Settings
Tried this - it didn't help.
Try disabling the following and see:
Armor, Circle, Daisy Chain, Fast Roaming, IPv6 and Set 20/40Mhz Coexistence to 40Mhz only. Set Short preamble instead of Long preamble modes. Save settings and reboot the router and satellite(s).
Don't have Armor or Circle enabled, but will try the others.
FURRYe38
Mar 10, 2020Guru - Experienced User
Seems that you may have a ISP modem with built in router and wifi.
Do you know what mode the modem is working in? Router or Bridged?
This would be a double NAT condition which isn't recommended. https://kb.netgear.com/30186/What-is-Double-NAT
https://kb.netgear.com/30187/How-to-fix-issues-with-Double-NAT
Couple of options,
1. Configure the modem for transparent bridge or modem only mode. Then use the Orbi router in router mode. You'll need to contact the ISP for help and information in regards to the modem being bridged correctly.
2. If you can't bridge the modem, disable ALL wifi radios on the modem, configure the modems DMZ/ExposedHost or IP Pass-Through for the IP address the Orbi router gets from the modem. Then you can use the Orbi router in Router mode.
3. Or disable all wifi radios on the modem and connect the Orbi router to the modem, configure AP mode on the Orbi router. https://kb.netgear.com/31218/How-do-I-configure-my-Orbi-router-to-act-as-an-access-point and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7LOcJ8GdDo&app=desktop
Try removing the RBS from the RBRs web page. Then factory reset the RBS by pressing the back reset button for 15 seconds then release. Once the top ring LED slowly pulsates WHITE, press the black sync button on the RBR then on the RBS. I would do this with the RBS in the same room as the RBR. If you get it sync'd, then place back in remote location.
A reset of the RBR maybe needed as last resort.
- Retired_MemberMar 10, 2020
FURRYe38 wrote:Seems that you may have a ISP modem with built in router and wifi.
Do you know what mode the modem is working in? Router or Bridged?
This would be a double NAT condition which isn't recommended. https://kb.netgear.com/30186/What-is-Double-NAT
https://kb.netgear.com/30187/How-to-fix-issues-with-Double-NAT
Couple of options,
1. Configure the modem for transparent bridge or modem only mode. Then use the Orbi router in router mode. You'll need to contact the ISP for help and information in regards to the modem being bridged correctly.
2. If you can't bridge the modem, disable ALL wifi radios on the modem, configure the modems DMZ/ExposedHost or IP Pass-Through for the IP address the Orbi router gets from the modem. Then you can use the Orbi router in Router mode.
3. Or disable all wifi radios on the modem and connect the Orbi router to the modem, configure AP mode on the Orbi router. https://kb.netgear.com/31218/How-do-I-configure-my-Orbi-router-to-act-as-an-access-point and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7LOcJ8GdDo&app=desktopTry removing the RBS from the RBRs web page. Then factory reset the RBS by pressing the back reset button for 15 seconds then release. Once the top ring LED slowly pulsates WHITE, press the black sync button on the RBR then on the RBS. I would do this with the RBS in the same room as the RBR. If you get it sync'd, then place back in remote location.
A reset of the RBR maybe needed as last resort.
How do you explain...." Up until recently they were working reliably and the system has been great.?"
- AIRgaugeMar 10, 2020Aspirant
It is bridged and was done at install by the ISP at the same time as I installed the RBR - have had both working together successfully for almost 3 years.
- Retired_MemberMar 10, 2020
AIRgauge wrote:It is bridged and was done at install by the ISP at the same time as I installed the RBR - have had both working together successfully for almost 3 years.
wow...3 years....pretty good!:smileyhappy:
- AIRgaugeMar 10, 2020Aspirant
Agreed - it's been a great system which is why I'm trying to stick with it.
- AIRgaugeMar 10, 2020Aspirant
I did remove the RBS manually but have not performed a factory reset on it. Can try that.
- FURRYe38Mar 10, 2020Guru - Experienced User
Lets try that.
I and others have v2.5.1.8 loaded and working.
You can go back to working FW as well if you want to.
AIRgauge wrote:I did remove the RBS manually but have not performed a factory reset on it. Can try that.
- AIRgaugeMar 10, 2020Aspirant
Factory reset of satellite does not appear to have fixed the problem. The backhaul status is still showing up as disconnected and the connected devices are not displaying. It did not prompt a firmware update following the reset - wondering if it worked properly.