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bearhntr
May 10, 2022Aspirant
ORBI RKB50 and UPnP/IGD - Broadcasting in AP mode
I am running a pfSense Router and Firewall now (since Oct 2021) and using my ORBI RBK50 in AP mode (Router Firmware Version V2.7.3.22). I have been trying to find a way to disable the UPnP/IGD funct...
bearhntr
May 11, 2022Aspirant
I am glad you think this is "FUN" - LoL
I agree - it is a BUG - and given that these puppies (when I bought them - were considered "Premium" devices) this concerns me that something this simple is overlooked. If it was DISABLED in Router Mode - it should not start listening or broadcasting on UPnP port when the mode changes.
Given that this the RBR50 / RBS50 are both basically running OpenWRT (limited and lots of things disabled) - they need to fix this or allow OpenWRT to create a Firmware which gives access to Everything.
Who even knows if NETGEAR reads these posts and will even address this - probably blow it off, given they have their "SHINY NEW WIFI 6" Orbis out there now...and in their lameness do not offer an UPGRADE discount to us other ORBI owners - especially with the CHIP SHORTAGES. Just expect us to TRASH 'EM and spend another $400-600 to upgrade.
So NETGEAR - I ask - how do we fix this???
CrimpOn
May 11, 2022Guru - Experienced User
bearhntr wrote:
...... So NETGEAR - I ask - how do we fix this???
Considering the clusterf**k frenzy going on with Orbi AX model issues, my guess is that this UPnP issue is not likely to rate in the "top 10" for Netgear engineering. Software engineers do not spend time browsing the forums, so no one going to look at it until support makes a case to management that the problem needs to be fixed.
To "complete the test", I put the Test Orbi back into router mode and verified:
- When UPnP is not enabled, a UPnP scanner connected to the test Orbi (not the primary network) did not detect any UPnP function.
- When UPnP is enabled, the UPnP scanner detected the Orbi router as an Internet Gateway Device, which it is when enabled.
(Note that this is different than the report on the Orbi when in AP mode, which did not claim to be an IGD.)
This is where my lack of network sophistication comes in. What damage does this UPnP flaw do?
- Will devices on the network not be able to find media servers?
- Will media servers not be able to announce themselves on the internet (if that's what the user wants and the primary router supports that capability)?
I think damage is the key element. an explanation of how this affects operation.