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FredParis
Aspirant
Nov 25, 2019

ORBI System components compatibility

Hello, I have since on eyear an ORBI system with a RBR20 and its satellite RBS20 and everything works well. Now, I want to extend the network to the roof terrace. I did tests with the RBS20 and it ...
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plemans
Guru - Experienced User
Nov 25, 2019

All the satellites will work interchangably.  However, the RBS50 has has a 4x4 backhaul while the rbs20's are only 2x2. so even though you consider it more powerful, you won't gain any benefit from it as it can only connect back at the 2x2 configuration. 

 

Are you passing though concrete/brick/plaster to get to this outdoor terrace? these materials are great at blocking signals. I'd investigate powerline or a means of getting a hardwired connection outdoors. this would prevent the instability. 

FredParis's avatar
FredParis
Aspirant
Nov 25, 2019
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Hello Plemans,
Thanks for your help. Yes the terrace of the building is built on concrete which makes the transmission of the signal difficult.
So I understand that the RBS50 will bring nothing more than the RBS20. I imagine two other solutions:
. Option 1 based on an RBS50Y located outside the shelter so closer to the source but with the risk of signal loss as when I did the test with the RBS20. It's not really satisfying!
. Option 2 based on NETGEAR PLP2000-100FRS (or equivalent), but I would have to keep the same original ORBI network for a good operation of my installation (I am also equipped with equipment connected to google home which must work on a single wifi network). I do not know if it's possible?
What's your opinion ?
  • plemans's avatar
    plemans
    Guru - Experienced User
    Nov 26, 2019

    Concrete makes things challenging.

    Potentially you could just run a powerline out to the patio and use then use an orbi connected to it. a lot depends on what circuit the powerline is on as occasionally powerline can have issues/slow downs with certain powerline devices. 

    I think that'd probably be your best bet for getting good coverage out there would be powerline for the orbi backhaul. 

    • CrimpOn's avatar
      CrimpOn
      Guru - Experienced User
      Nov 26, 2019

      Is this your building? (In the sense that you are able to install wiring?)  I use PowerLine, with a total of four adapters. As plemans said, PowerLine is as much of a challenge as WiFi.  Short distances on the same electrical circuit can get tremendous bandwidth.  When PowerLiine connects to multiple circuits through the electrical panel, performance drops.  I get 1,200mb from one bedroom to another on the same circuit, but only 120mb from the same bedroom out to the garage on a different circuit.

       

      One "general rule" is to never penetrate a roof, but there seems to be a shelter up there with electrical power in it.  Is there some way to run an ethernet cable to the shelter?

      • CrimpOn's avatar
        CrimpOn
        Guru - Experienced User
        Nov 26, 2019

        p.s. A pair of AV2 PowerLine adapters is about $100.  I would  not mess with the lower speed units.

         

        Another thought.  Did someone happen to run television coax to the terrace?  (Or, maybe the cable TV feed comes to the building at the terrace level before going down into the house?  A pair of MoCHA adapters is another possibility.

    • FredParis's avatar
      FredParis
      Aspirant
      Nov 26, 2019

      the powerline is probably the best solution indeed, provided it keep the names and characteristics of those of the initial network ORBI for my google home system components.

      Thanks for your help