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Vqmpire
Nov 07, 2023Aspirant
Orbi with Hive hub for central heating blocking ports
Have Orbi RBR50, Satellites, and hive hub connected by ethernet. The hive I can see connected to Orbi has ip address but it is not able to communicate with the hive internet servers. So as the h...
Vqmpire
Nov 15, 2023Aspirant
It's Hive Nano 2 hub, pictures below (just disconnected for photo).
Not using Orbi Armour (Not Activated), PArental Controlls (Not Enabled) or Access controlls.
Tried the page but no luck. Always top led flashing...
CrimpOn
Nov 15, 2023Guru - Experienced User
(I have zero experience with PPoE.)
Which Ethernet port is the hub connected to?
Is there a switch between the Orbi and the Hive hub?
Green LED flashing quickly or slowly?
- schumakuNov 15, 2023Guru - Experienced User
Internet-(Data-)traffic is on it's own dedicated VLAN.
On carrier operated CPEs are using the VoIP and IPTV VLANs independent, and doing smart NAT to allow typical home LAN access for IPTV-boxes. VoIP is typically not user accessible, as the users have no access to the naked VoIP to connect user supplied VoIP or SIP phone stations.
As we're talking about a plain simple Orbi - not knowing about this ISP environment anyways - it won't take care about these 8-). All it could do is fan-out these two VLANs (== bridge) to a dedicated local network port where the user could connect e.g. a set-top box.
Not the first and and the last provider where the support people have no clue what they talk about ... happened several times here with misleading or false information ref. service access vs. port forwarding already.
Connected this IoT wonder to a port defined as bridged to the ISP VLAN (VoIP or IPTV) by error?
- CrimpOnNov 15, 2023Guru - Experienced User
This is all so foreign to me. Would love to have directions to an explanation of "how it works" to have three separate VLAN tags.
- schumakuNov 15, 2023Guru - Experienced User
CrimpOn wrote:
This is all so foreign to me. Would love to have directions to an explanation of "how it works" to have three separate VLAN tags.
Not sure what you ask here - confused by these newer Orbi offering dedicated Internet, IPTV, and IoT VLANs? This isn't the same basic thing I'm drawing here. Not aware these newer consumer Orbi are supporting configurable many-to-one NAT routes sophisticated small business routers and security appliances do. Sorry, if I sound frustrated: Netgear ignored my proposal providing a design for such a router. So it came as it had to come, they implemented the minimum (very fractional) of they understood and can in the from of the vary basic
MultiWANDualWAN PR60X, Nice hardware, but by far not what I expected in this class. Check the RTFM 8-/These are VLAN-tags in use on the carrier side, in the OP case by this ISP unknown to me.
What Netgear has implemented is a bridge, bringing (==bridging) the traffic of one of these VLANs to a physical port the user can use to connect a IPTV SetTop box for example. In the case of IPTV it's done because most of the consumer network equipment is not VLAN-aware. The ISP can assign an IP address by DHCP or the like, so the SetTop box is able to receive the IPTV Multicast IGMPv2 or IGMPv3 from live TV channels. Very different VOD (video on demand) is pure UDP unicast. Its done on a CGN (carrier grade NAT) method, for simplicity usually on IPv4 RFC1918 addresses.
The VLAN tags only exist on the ISP network, and don't make it to the user network
Ignore that on these examples its name IoT. usually it's plain IPTV:
Like you can get Internet (in fact the NAT router WAN Internet VLAN), you can also assign a dedicated port for IPTV.