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1qwerty1
Feb 25, 2020Tutor
Outbound traffic to Amazon space
Hello, I am wondering why my Orbi AC2200 unit (running latest firmware as of 2/23/2020, RBR20) is constantly making outbound connections to the Amazon space (52.0.0.0/11) over SSL/443. The home ...
icuhackn
Apr 14, 2020Tutor
Thank you for this thread ... I thought I was going crazy looking at my PA-220 logs and seeing all this traffic. I have a very similar setup as you. Going to add those to my pi-hole blacklists too. The Satellite is making outbound calls too and not just the router in AP mode.
1qwerty1
Apr 14, 2020Tutor
After mocking around, here is my final list of rules with FQDNs/subnet to block/allow (in the top-bottom order, src: Orbi router + satellite):
ALLOW:
www.netgear.com AppID: ping
DENY ANY:
devicelocation.ngxcld.com
fw.updates1.netgear.com
genieremote.netgear.com
http.fw.updates1.netgear.com
peernetwork.netgear.com
presence.ngxcld.com
readycloud.netgear.com
readyshare.netgear.com
registration.ngxcld.com
updates1.netgear.com
DENY: 52.0.0.0/11 AppID: Any
DENY: AppIDs: aws-iot, ftp, ping, ssl, web-browsing
- icuhacknApr 14, 2020Tutor
this is great, thanks! I just set mine up. Do you see this destination in your PA logs for ICMP?
( addr.dst in 192.168.0.120 )I can only assume that perhaps the wifi backhaul is using that address; however, I cannot see anywhere in the WebUI configuration or general documentation that says what network it uses for backhaul connectivity between router and satellite Orbi. I have the AX6000 series devices.
Thanks!
- CrimpOnApr 14, 2020Guru - Experienced User
The Orbi WiFi backhaul is a 5G radio link directly between the router and satellite. Since it is encrypted in a WiFi signal, I doubt very much that this traffic will be "capturable". (word?)
- 1qwerty1Apr 15, 2020Tutor
Re: the outbound 192.168.x.x address pings
In my logs since the day I installed the Orbi, i see one icmp outbound packet from the Orbi router per day to 192.168.100.1 which gets denied by my src:any dst:rfc1918 subnets rule. I am not sure where this comes from.
Btw, if you would like a complete list of URLs your Orbi devices are configured for, telnet to your router, and:
root@RBR20:~# grep -rw '/etc' -e 'https:'
Some of the domains are not related to our devices, however, a few more popped up in the config (I don't see these in the pcaps):
advisor.qa.arloxcld.com
registration.qa.ngxcld.com
presence.qa.ngxcld.com
registration.qa.ngxcld.com
updates.netgear.com
genieremote-qa.netgear.com
devcom-qa.up.netgear.com
arlo-device-staging.messaging.netgear.com
devicelocation.dev.ngxcld.com
devicelocation.qa.ngxcld.com
devicelocation.ngxcld.com
redmine.lighttpd.netIt probably won't hurt to block these as well.