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iabd
Sep 10, 2019Aspirant
Please Help-No access-websites not loading (404 messages)-Orbi RBR20-Mac OS and iOS
Hi Community—I've been encountering a lot of error messages and hoping someone can help. I run Mac OS 10.14.5 (Mohave) and iOS 12.4 on iPhone Xr. Orbi is connected via CAT 6 to an (wifi disabled)...
FURRYe38
Sep 10, 2019Guru - Experienced User
What Firmware is currently loaded?
What is the Mfr and model# of the ISP modem the NG router is connected too?
Is the Orbi system operating in Router or AP mode?
Modem Combo Units:
This would be a double NAT condition which isn't recommended. https://kb.netgear.com/30186/What-is-Double-NAT
https://kb.netgear.com/30187/How-to-fix-issues-with-Double-NAT
Couple of options,
1. Configure the modem for transparent bridge or modem only mode. Then use the Orbi router in router mode. You'll need to contact the ISP for help and information in regards to the modem being bridged correctly.
2. If you can't bridge the modem, disable ALL wifi radios on the modem, configure the modems DMZ/ExposedHost or IP Pass-Through for the IP address the Orbi router gets from the modem. Then you can use the Orbi router in Router mode.
3. Or disable all wifi radios on the modem and connect the Orbi router to the modem, configure AP mode on the Orbi router. https://kb.netgear.com/31218/How-do-I-configure-my-Orbi-router-to-act-as-an-access-point and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7LOcJ8GdDo&app=desktop
iabd wrote:Hi Community—I've been encountering a lot of error messages and hoping someone can help.
I run Mac OS 10.14.5 (Mohave) and iOS 12.4 on iPhone Xr. Orbi is connected via CAT 6 to an (wifi disabled) Arris modem supplied by Spectrum. I get 404 messages repeatedly, but not consistently. Orbi app denies access, says login incorrect. Have reset password 2X. No avail. Try downloading firmware updates, get 404 message. No access to orbilogin.com. I'm blocked at every turn.
iabd
Sep 10, 2019Aspirant
Hi FURRYe38,
I cannot find firmware version because I cannot access the orbi app. I purchased the RBR20 in Nov 2018, that's the last time firmware was updated.
The modem is an Arris, model TG1672G
I do not know how to tell you what mode the Orbi is operating in, if I could login to orbilogin.com I could answer these questions better.
I just posted 2 screen shots of the type of errors I have been getting online.
Thanks for any help.
- iabdSep 10, 2019Aspirant
The modem's wifi capabilities have been disabled.
- michaelkenwardSep 11, 2019Guru - Experienced User
iabd wrote:
The modem is an Arris, model TG1672G
That is a modem router. Two routers on your network can cause headaches. For example, you can end up with local address problems. Among other things, the other router can misdirect addresses that the Netgear router usually handles, such as routerlogin.net or the usual IP address for a router, 192.168.1.1.
This explains some of the other drawbacks.
What is Double NAT? | Answer | NETGEAR SupportIt could also explain what you see. And disabling the wifi on the Arris does not disable the router.
Unless you have specific reasons for using two routers – to create two separate networks for example – it is often easier to use just one router and then to set up the second router as a wifi access point. Netgear advises this, as does just about every site you will visit.
It may be possible to put the modem/router into modem only (bridge) mode and then to use the second device as the router. Sometimes it is easier to put the second router into AP mode. But that has its own drawbacks:
Disabled Features on the Router when set to AP Mode | Answer | NETGEAR Support- iabdSep 11, 2019Aspirant
Hi michaelkenward—Thanks for your reply. I did call my ISP and confirmed that the modem's router was disabled but it looks like I need to do more than that. Yesterday, I was so frustrated, I succumbed and paid Netgear to help me. All the issues are not totally resolved but it's beter than where I was earlier in the day. I believe next steps will be what you list below and I'll have a Gearhead walk me through it. Thanks again for your suggestions.