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KiccoLSD
Jan 01, 2023Guide
RBK50: Ethernet Backhaul + Multi Gig
Hi there, I'm in trouble with my new network setup which include a Multigig ISP router (10Gbit GPON) and Orbi RBK50 (1 Router in AP Mode and 2 Sats). My goals are: Keep a multi gig link from ISP ...
- Jan 03, 2023
If your connecting your 2.5Gb PC to the nr2 switch then this will work to maintain the 2.5Gb speed from the host router to the PC.
You can connect the RBR to nr2 here as well, then connect the RBS if you want it ethernet connected to the back of the RBR or use the D-Link switch in between the RBR and RBS for this segment of the chain.
You could connect the RBR to nr1 switch then behind the RBR, directly connect the RBS or connect the DLink switch behind the RBR then connect the RBS to the DLink switch in this segment.
schumaku
Jan 01, 2023Guru - Experienced User
Classic Orbi is making a Gigabit Ethernet backhaul only, no MultiGig.
- KiccoLSDJan 01, 2023Guide
Thx for your reply. If you check network schemes to fix this I use a direct cable from ISP router to Multi Gig Switch and Orbis are cable connected to ISP LAN port and Switch. If you want take a look at linked network maps
- CrimpOnJan 01, 2023Guru - Experienced User
Config #1 does not product a wired backhaul because the Orbi router (in any 'mode') expects to see satellites on one or more of its LAN ports, not on the WAN port. That is why config#2 produces a wired backhaul.
The obvious solution is to place a second cable from one of the LAN ports on the router over to the gig switch in the second location.
Depending on the capabilities of the ISP router, it might be possible to go from the router LAN port back to the ISP router. i.e. have two cables linking ISP router and Orbi router.
One user found a way to use VLANs to have a single cable carry more than one network. His situation was the router being away from the ISP and he needed to get the ISP traffic to the router and then the LAN traffic back to the network over a single cable.
https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Disabling-automatic-subnet-reconfig/m-p/2031354#M110164
With this system in access point mode, it may be that the only thing 'missing' is information about where WiFi devices have attached. Everything is in the same IP subnet. It could be that the Ethernet adapters will router traffic correctly over the wired network and the 'backhaul' between Orbi units is not required. Does config#1 "work" in the sense that devices have internet and can communicate?
- KiccoLSDJan 01, 2023Guide
CrimpOn wrote:Config #1 does not product a wired backhaul because the Orbi router (in any 'mode') expects to see satellites on one or more of its LAN ports, not on the WAN port. That is why config#2 produces a wired backhaul.
The obvious solution is to place a second cable from one of the LAN ports on the router over to the gig switch in the second location.
Does config#1 "work" in the sense that devices have internet and can communicate?
Thx for your help CrimpOn.
Config#1 deliver internet and communication allover the network area. Everything works flawless except from Ethernet Backhaul. It was also in my mind that the only way to achieve EthBackhaul and Multigig is a second cable but I tried asking here to check if I missed something.
- FURRYe38Jan 01, 2023Guru - Experienced User
Since the 50 series is limited by it's hardware at 1Gb WAN and LAN ports, this whille be the max that the 50 series will support for ethernet back haul.
If you want 2.5Gb multi gig ethernet backhaul, you'll need to get into a 9 series Orbi system that has a 10Gb WAN on the RBR and 2.5Gb on the RBR and RBS LAN side, using CAT6A STP cabling, you'll get 2.5GB ethernet backhaul to the RBS from the RBR. This works on my 9 series. You'll need an extra 2.5 or 10Gb LAN switch if you have two or more RBS connected...XS505M and GS110MX work great with the 9 series.
- KiccoLSDJan 01, 2023Guide
FURRYe38 wrote:Since the 50 series is limited by it's hardware at 1Gb WAN and LAN ports, this whille be the max that the 50 series will support for ethernet back haul.
If you want 2.5Gb multi gig ethernet backhaul, you'll need to get into a 9 series Orbi system that has a 10Gb WAN on the RBR and 2.5Gb on the RBR and RBS LAN side, using CAT6A STP cabling, you'll get 2.5GB ethernet backhaul to the RBS from the RBR. This works on my 9 series. You'll need an extra 2.5 or 10Gb LAN switch if you have two or more RBS connected...XS505M and GS110MX work great with the 9 series.
Thx for your reply FURRYe38. I know series 9 is the perfect fit for my setup but I'm happy with Series5 and I cannot afford a Series9 4 element setup now. Btw Series5 performance are ok for my WiFi connected devices also its Gig Ethernet Backhaul is enough. The only thing I'm trying to obtain is find a way to restore Gigabit Ethernet Backhaul with my new setup. Maybe One day I'll jump in Series9 or 10... 😁