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KiccoLSD
Jan 01, 2023Guide
RBK50: Ethernet Backhaul + Multi Gig
Hi there, I'm in trouble with my new network setup which include a Multigig ISP router (10Gbit GPON) and Orbi RBK50 (1 Router in AP Mode and 2 Sats). My goals are: Keep a multi gig link from ISP ...
- Jan 03, 2023
If your connecting your 2.5Gb PC to the nr2 switch then this will work to maintain the 2.5Gb speed from the host router to the PC.
You can connect the RBR to nr2 here as well, then connect the RBS if you want it ethernet connected to the back of the RBR or use the D-Link switch in between the RBR and RBS for this segment of the chain.
You could connect the RBR to nr1 switch then behind the RBR, directly connect the RBS or connect the DLink switch behind the RBR then connect the RBS to the DLink switch in this segment.
KiccoLSD
Jan 01, 2023Guide
Thx for your reply. If you check network schemes to fix this I use a direct cable from ISP router to Multi Gig Switch and Orbis are cable connected to ISP LAN port and Switch. If you want take a look at linked network maps
CrimpOn
Jan 01, 2023Guru - Experienced User
Config #1 does not product a wired backhaul because the Orbi router (in any 'mode') expects to see satellites on one or more of its LAN ports, not on the WAN port. That is why config#2 produces a wired backhaul.
The obvious solution is to place a second cable from one of the LAN ports on the router over to the gig switch in the second location.
Depending on the capabilities of the ISP router, it might be possible to go from the router LAN port back to the ISP router. i.e. have two cables linking ISP router and Orbi router.
One user found a way to use VLANs to have a single cable carry more than one network. His situation was the router being away from the ISP and he needed to get the ISP traffic to the router and then the LAN traffic back to the network over a single cable.
https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Disabling-automatic-subnet-reconfig/m-p/2031354#M110164
With this system in access point mode, it may be that the only thing 'missing' is information about where WiFi devices have attached. Everything is in the same IP subnet. It could be that the Ethernet adapters will router traffic correctly over the wired network and the 'backhaul' between Orbi units is not required. Does config#1 "work" in the sense that devices have internet and can communicate?
- KiccoLSDJan 01, 2023Guide
CrimpOn wrote:Config #1 does not product a wired backhaul because the Orbi router (in any 'mode') expects to see satellites on one or more of its LAN ports, not on the WAN port. That is why config#2 produces a wired backhaul.
The obvious solution is to place a second cable from one of the LAN ports on the router over to the gig switch in the second location.
Does config#1 "work" in the sense that devices have internet and can communicate?
Thx for your help CrimpOn.
Config#1 deliver internet and communication allover the network area. Everything works flawless except from Ethernet Backhaul. It was also in my mind that the only way to achieve EthBackhaul and Multigig is a second cable but I tried asking here to check if I missed something.
- CrimpOnJan 01, 2023Guru - Experienced User
KiccoLSD wrote:
Config#1 deliver internet and communication allover the network area. Everything works flawless except from Ethernet Backhaul. It was also in my mind that the only way to achieve EthBackhaul and Multigig is a second cable but I tried asking here to check if I missed something.Access point mode is an interesting situation. Since the 'router' performs no "router functions" (DHCP, DNS, NAT, port forwarding, etc.), it is not essential that every packet pass through the router. All that is required is for each of the Orbi units to know how to forward packets from one device on the IP subnet to another. Switches do this by keeping a table of MAC addresses for each port. When a packet comes in addressed to some MAC address, they search the table, find the correct port, and forward the packet.
My guess is that the WiFi backhaul link between router and satellites is nearly silent, as all the traffic is going through the wired connections.
It would be fascinating to hear if the Orbi system accurately describes which unit each WiFi device has chosen (router, satellite1, satellite2).
- KiccoLSDJan 02, 2023Guide
CrimpOn wrote:
KiccoLSD wrote:
Config#1 deliver internet and communication allover the network area. Everything works flawless except from Ethernet Backhaul. It was also in my mind that the only way to achieve EthBackhaul and Multigig is a second cable but I tried asking here to check if I missed something.My guess is that the WiFi backhaul link between router and satellites is nearly silent, as all the traffic is going through the wired connections.
It would be fascinating to hear if the Orbi system accurately describes which unit each WiFi device has chosen (router, satellite1, satellite2).
If I check RBR50 GUI it show me Sats are linked with 5G backhaul and I can trust this because, even if it performs well in download ad upload with 500Mbit \ 500Mbit ping is significantly higher. Download ping is 200ms vs 30ms with old config. Switching to second question, with actual config RBR50 is in trouble with connected devices. Trusting its GUI everything is connected to router (not true) and also connection type is wrong (WiFi \ Wired). If you check every Sat GUI they have accurate connected devices and link type table bit without device name (it says unknown). Orbi App works but network map didn't show Sats but only connected devices. With old config everything was correctly displayed on RBR50 GUI and App.