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RBR20 slow wifi
I have an Orbi RBR20 and my WIFI download speeds are slower than my upload speeds. I’ve completed a factory reset and still have crazy slow speeds. My hardwired speeds are extremely fast but my WiFi i...
Would be helpful to know what is the Mfr and model# of the Internet Service Providers modem/ONT the NG router is connected too?
I thought the ERX router has a max WAN to LAN speed of around 300Mbps limitation? Your seeing near 900Mpbs thru it on the wire?
miafrate wrote:So since my initial reply I figured out a solution and I've been reliably getting 450-500 Mbps on wifi. I put the Orbi into AP mode and put a Ubiquiti Edgemax Edgerouter X infront of it. Hardwired I'm hitting 900+ Mbps through the Ubiquiti router and when I use wifi it's reliable and always fast and the delay when browsing is gone. The unfortunate thing is I can't use any of the Parental controls through the Orbi anymore as they get disabled when in AP mode but I guess it's a small price to pay. I tried as a test to put the orbi back into router mode even behind the Ubiquiti and wifi instantly went into the toilet, it was painfully slow and unresponsive once again. I guess this goes to show the wifi is good but the router portion of the Orbi since the latest firmware is junk.
Hope this helps someone else out.
For the EdgeRouter X it is capable of Gigabit speeds but without offloading your speeds will be greatly decreased.
Hardwired into my switch I can get 900+ depending on network traffic, right now I just did a speed test and seeing 853Mbps but kids are online gaming, streaming
My Setup is Hitron CODA-4582U ---> Ubiquiti EdgeRouter X ---> TredNet Gigabit Switch ---> ORBI RBR20 in AP Mode (25+ Wifi devices, including ipads, phones, firesticks, smarthome devices), Desktops, Security Cameras
miafrate wrote:For the EdgeRouter X it is capable of Gigabit speeds but without offloading your speeds will be greatly decreased.
Hardwired into my switch I can get 900+ depending on network traffic, right now I just did a speed test and seeing 853Mbps but kids are online gaming, streaming
My Setup is Hitron CODA-4582U ---> Ubiquiti EdgeRouter X ---> TredNet Gigabit Switch ---> ORBI RBR20 in AP Mode (25+ Wifi devices, including ipads, phones, firesticks, smarthome devices), Desktops, Security Cameras
The Ubiquiti EdgeRouter X in front of the Orbi can cause issues.
Try Hitron CODA-4582U ---> ORBI RBR20 in AP Mode ---> TredNet Gigabit Switch ---> (25+ Wifi devices, including ipads, phones, firesticks, smarthome devices), Desktops, Security Cameras
So your issue is more than likely that you have a Hitron CODA-4582U, which is a full router going to your Ubiquiti EdgeRouter X, which is also a router to you Orbi RBR20. I'd remove the Ubiquiti EdgeRouter X, if you do not need it.
Why would you put the orbi between the switch and the router? If you ever have to reboot the orbi it takes down the whole network but when it's connected to the switch like it is it's basically operating just as a device which would only affect wireless devices. Also you're pushing all internet traffic through the orbi with it before the switch which would be overloading the device unnecessarilly.
I have had it this way for 8+ months and have never had an issue and my network is the most reliable it has ever been. All my wired devices always are up and runing without interruption and if i have a wifi issue it only affects those wifi devices and nothing hardwired.
miafrate wrote:Why would you put the orbi between the switch and the router? If you ever have to reboot the orbi it takes down the whole network but when it's connected to the switch like it is it's basically operating just as a device which would only affect wireless devices. Also you're pushing all internet traffic through the orbi with it before the switch which would be overloading the device unnecessarilly.
I have had it this way for 8+ months and have never had an issue and my network is the most reliable it has ever been. All my wired devices always are up and runing without interruption and if i have a wifi issue it only affects those wifi devices and nothing hardwired.
Sure It wouldn't matter much if the Orbi is in AP mode, unless the switch, like some smart and green switches, causes issues.
I guess it depends on how you want your network configured.
Most users are purchasing an Orbi system to replace all the routers and access points. Using it as a WIFI system in AP mode is fine, just no benefit at all.
You are pushing the traffic through the system anyway, there is no overloading the device and if so the switch wouldn't be able to handle the load as well.
FYI I have no problems right now, everything is working at full speed now that I'm using a decent router and just using the orbi for wifi, infact it's actually much better now than it was when the orbi was on an older firmware that was actually working ok.
The Hitron is in bridge mode so it's only acting as a modem so your assumption is wrong. Also a router behind a router would work perfectly fine, redundant and a little slower but will generally work, the only time if would become an issue is when you're trying to do any NAT and VPN stuff.
The Orbi router portion is the issue for me as the wifi and the hardwired devices all experienced a slow down when it's in routed mode when connected directly to the hitron or even behind the ubiquiti. The latest firmware killed it for me and the only solution that worked was to replace the router portion with a ubiquiti and let the orbi just handle the wifi. The good thing about doing it that way is I know my wifi will stay just like it is because I am able to block the orbi from downloading any new firmware and even checking for them for that matter. So now anything that netgear forces to be upgraded will not affect me and my wifi will continue to work as it does now. The EdgeRouter handles all my NAT, DHCP, and VPN and does it flawlessly and reliably.
I have successfully fixed a colleagues network who was also experiencing the exact same problem as I was. I mirrored my current setup with the EdgeRouter inbetween the modem and their orbi and put the orbi in ap mode and they have not experienced any issues since it was done.
I would highly recommend anyone having an issue with the orbi and slow speed to try my setup, the EdgeRouter is pretty cheap considering how powerful it is but the only downfall is for the standard home user configuring it will be a problem since everything can't be handled through the gui interface and certain things will need to be done through command lines.
You mentioned being wrong about the double NAT scenario. Since many more people are working from home, NAT and VPN stuff, as you put it are becoming normal setups. It's not too important for homeonwers, unless someone is an avid gamer, then they will likely experience a number of connectivity issues, when trying to play online.
Glad you got it working to your satisfation. :smileyhappy:
