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NorthernApe
Aug 31, 2021Aspirant
RBR50 to RBS50 connectivity issue
I have an RBR50 connected directly to a BT Openreach ONT and running in router mode. The internet connection is up and running and stable. There are two RBS50 satellites spread through the ground flo...
- Sep 01, 2021
I think I have accepted that getting the satellites hard-wired using powerline adaptors is pretty much dead in the water and there doesn't seem to be that great an advantage speed-wise over the MESH network anyway!
With that in mind, can I get an opinion on the optimum settings for the Orbi router? Attached is a screenshot of the wireless settings.
plemans
Aug 31, 2021Guru - Experienced User
a couple things.
1. running 2 routers in router mode can cause issues. its called a double nat. https://kb.netgear.com/30186/What-is-Double-NAT
2. Is there a powerline adapter connected back to the bt openreach router or just to the orbi router?
3. powerline is sensitive to interference and a lot of things can interfere with powerline. these include: electronics going bad, cheap cell phone chargers, high draw appliances, old/bad/cheap/sketchy wiring, arc fault circuits, gfci outlets, surge protectors, and poorly made electronics. If the powerline backhaul isn't staying stable/connected, I'd be looking at the powerline system and not the orbi system.
NorthernApe
Aug 31, 2021Aspirant
Thanks for your comments. plemans.
plemans wrote:a couple things.
1. running 2 routers in router mode can cause issues. its called a double nat. https://kb.netgear.com/30186/What-is-Double-NAT
I have FTTP connected directly to the BT Openreach ONT box, which I believe is a modem not a router. I'm not aware of any settings for this box that I can access to check for a double NAT issue. I have checked the connected devices and they are all using the Orbi provided IP address.
I used to have a Fritzbox modem (my ISP, ZEN Internet, provided this) between the ONT and the Orbi with the Orbi being set to AP mode. I read that the Orbi could be connected directly to the ONT, be set to Router mode, and get an internet connection via PPPOE, and this is what I have done.
2. Is there a powerline adapter connected back to the bt openreach router or just to the orbi router?
The connectivity route is:
ONT -> Orbi (Router mode) -> Powerline --> Powerline -> Satellites (x2)
Each satellite has its own powerline adaptor.
3. powerline is sensitive to interference and a lot of things can interfere with powerline. these include: electronics going bad, cheap cell phone chargers, high draw appliances, old/bad/cheap/sketchy wiring, arc fault circuits, gfci outlets, surge protectors, and poorly made electronics. If the powerline backhaul isn't staying stable/connected, I'd be looking at the powerline system and not the orbi system.
The satellites aren't connecting using the ethernet (powerline) backhaul, only via 5G, and this isn't even getting correctly represented in the Orbi app. According to the app, the satellites aren't connected at all. The network was working fine up to around a week ago and I can't think of any additions, electronically, that have been added to cause this. I can't even blame a firmware update as there hasn't been one for a while!