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Liquidcore
Nov 16, 2019Star
RBR50 unable to handle gigabit connection?
Hi there, I recently purchased the RBK50 to improve the WiFi range in my house and have configured the RBR50 as a router rather than an AP but it seems to be having trouble handling my gigabit connect...
FURRYe38
May 18, 2020Guru - Experienced User
What is the Mfr and model# of the ONT?
Yes, factory reset and walk thru the setup wizard. Do not enable QoS speedtest, Armor, Access Controls, Circle or Traffic Meter.
Be sure to use a wired PC connected to the RBR. Use Ooklas installable speed test app.
breezytm
May 18, 2020Guide
I do not know this information as it is not accessible to me at the moment. The setup is at my parents. I will go there in the middle of this week to perform the factory reset. I will gather the ONT information and post it on here.
I will also provide my test result whether it is possitive, neutral, or negative. I think that it is problematic when most people start a thread but never actually provide a solution. They just drop the conversation and others like me looking for answers don't know what was the outcome. It is time consuming and counterproductive.
- FURRYe38May 18, 2020Guru - Experienced User
Understand. Hopefully this can give you some direction and results.
- breezytmMay 23, 2020Guide
Okay so I just finished reseting the router and did exactly as you suggested. I set everything to "Maybe Later" to prevent enabling QoS and/trottling of any kind.
Here's my results
Chrome browser: speedtest.net
783Mbps Download 887Mbps UploadChrome browser: fast.com
890Mbps Download 750Mbps UploadChrome browser: speedtest.googlefiber.net
847Mbps Download 928Mbps Upload
Chrome browser: go.verizon.com/business/speed-test
971Mbps Download 947Mbps Upload
Speedtest.net Mac OS X app
914Mbps Download 735Mbps Upload901Mbps Download 937Mbps Upload
- breezytmMay 23, 2020Guide
An observation and maybe others can confirm this. The router's throughputs seem to dropped when I plugged my TP-Link 8 port gigabit easy smart switch to it. all speed tests were below 700Mbps. Unplugged it and they went back to the ranged i documented above. I do not have an unmaged swtich with me at the moment to see if that makes a differnce. I will report on that when I come back in a few days. I have a 5 port unmanaged swtich at the home.
- FURRYe38May 23, 2020Guru - Experienced User
I would avoid using anything TP-Link!
breezytm wrote:An observation and maybe others can confirm this. The router's throughputs seem to dropped when I plugged my TP-Link 8 port gigabit easy smart switch to it. all speed tests were below 700Mbps. Unplugged it and they went back to the ranged i documented above. I do not have an unmaged swtich with me at the moment to see if that makes a differnce. I will report on that when I come back in a few days. I have a 5 port unmanaged swtich at the home.
- breezytmMay 24, 2020Guide
Do you mind elaborate on that statement? Thanks
- FURRYe38May 26, 2020Guru - Experienced User
Let us know if you can try a different brand switch to see if you notice anything different.
breezytm wrote:An observation and maybe others can confirm this. The router's throughputs seem to dropped when I plugged my TP-Link 8 port gigabit easy smart switch to it. all speed tests were below 700Mbps. Unplugged it and they went back to the ranged i documented above. I do not have an unmaged swtich with me at the moment to see if that makes a differnce. I will report on that when I come back in a few days. I have a 5 port unmanaged swtich at the home.
- pmoutzoNov 19, 2020Aspirant
I ran into this old post thanks to a Google search. I just need a clear and definitive answer.
Can this RBR50 handle the Comcast Gig Speed I'm paying for?
I am tired of chasing this problem down. I don't think it is fair to continually blame Comcast for not getting my money's worth if it turns out that the wifi mesh system doesn't have the throughput to handle the gig speed
My speed tests barely crack 450Mbps down. I am running firm ware version 2.3.5.30.
I have the Comcast xFi router going into the Orbi using a Cat6. And I only have one satellite.
Every speed test I have ever done, fast.com, Comcast, or the one built into the ios app to manage the Orbi has ever gotten close to the 900 down I should be getting.
I've junked the Google Wifi for this because I went up to the Gig ethernet. I'm happy to junk this one too if it just cant do the job. I just need someone to step up and be honest. I've read the spec sheets and I frankly can't understand statements like this:
Implicit/Explicit Beamforming for 2.4 & 5GHz bands (1733 + 866 + 400Mbps)†
Ok. So running a 5GHz band for most my devices...what does this mean? Take the 400Mbps and be happy?
Can anyone here actually help clarify what is going on here before I make an ass out of myself with Comcast tomorrow?
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- FURRYe38Nov 19, 2020Guru - Experienced User
Wired yes, wireless no. Due to design of wifi client hardware and support, most 5Ghz AC class devices max out at around 400-500Mpbs on 5Ghz AC. The 1733 is a connection rate between the RBR and RBS only. This is the wireless back haul of the Orbi system. 866Mbs is a connection rate between the Orbi system radios and any wifi client device. So if you have any 5Ghz supporting wifi devices that can connect up to this speed, this is just a rate between the device and Orbi system. This is not actual thruput speed which differs from bandwdith speed.
400Mpbs is the max connection rate between a 2.4Ghz wifi device and the Orbi system. Again, connection rate only.
https://kb.netgear.com/19668/Link-Rate-and-Transfer-Speed
If our ISP modem has a built in router, This would be a double NAT (two router) condition which isn't recommended. https://kb.netgear.com/30186/What-is-Double-NAT
https://kb.netgear.com/30187/How-to-fix-issues-with-Double-NAT
Couple of options,
1. Configure the modem for transparent bridge or modem only mode. Then use the Orbi router in router mode. You'll need to contact the ISP for help and information in regards to the modem being bridged correctly.
2. If you can't bridge the modem, disable ALL wifi radios on the modem, configure the modems DMZ/ExposedHost or IP Pass-Through for the IP address the Orbi router gets from the modem. Then you can use the Orbi router in Router mode.
3. Or disable all wifi radios on the modem and connect the Orbi router to the modem, configure AP mode on the Orbi router. https://kb.netgear.com/31218/How-do-I-configure-my-Orbi-router-to-act-as-an-access-point and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7LOcJ8GdDo&app=desktopWired:
- breezytmNov 19, 2020Guide
It does not but I am sure many would disagree with me. I got tired of dealing with this issue and replaced my Oribi with a 3 year old TP-Link router. Right away my wired speed went up to 108MB/s (over a gig) where as it used to report 70MB/s max. My wifi also got improved. If you can't get gigabit wired, you certainly will not get it wirelessly.
I also noticed on Amazon, in the description of this model now, it reads "Up to 500Mbps" which is 50MB/s. That's half a gig.
- breezytmNov 19, 2020Guide
I should also add that I never received above 300Mbps on my Orbi using any wireless devices through the 5GHz band. The router is normally about 3 feet away from me on any given day.
I spent three days working with Netgear support and at the end they decided to RMA my device. The results were the same with the replacement.All of this is base on my experience. I should also mentioned I am still using the devices in another location and they are working great. The subscribed download speed there is 300Mbps.
- pmoutzoNov 19, 2020Aspirant
Ok folks, thanks for the straight dope and for doing that within MINUTES of my post.
I want to address a few things that were brought up...and while I am rusty in terms of my network ops I did remember to set the Comcast to bridge mode so that I didnt double nat. I also made sure to turn off the wifi radios on the Comcast X1 so the home network is as clean as can be.
As for the Mbps versus mbps notation...I really hate that vendors let the marketing folks trick consumers into that. I know its still being transparent and its just math and all that...but man alive...Muggles are going to have a tough time figuring that ish out let alone old dudes like me that have forgotten most of this stuff.
It seems I need to trick Santa into buying a new Wifi Mesh system to get my wifi throughput as close to the cap as possible. And yea, I know that I am not going to hit the 1GB over wifi. I just got tired of looking at 400 down tonight and figured I would kill some time goofing around with the network.
Can anyone confirm if this model RBK753S-100NAS (which is sold at Costco for $500!) would increase my throughput on the wifi and maybe get me closer to the 800 or 900 down I am looking for around the house?
Thanks
P
- FURRYe38Nov 19, 2020Guru - Experienced User
IF you have AX supporting wifi devices, then you may see closer to 900Mpbs.
https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi-AX/bd-p/en-home-orbi-ax