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Laineybirdy
Feb 19, 2020Aspirant
RBR50 with AT&T Arris BGW210-700 - setup
I would be forever grateful if someone would please give me explicit instructions for setting up my Orbi (RBR50) with my new AT&T fiber router (Arris BGW-210-700) I have been all over trying to find ...
LLZEL
Mar 30, 2020Tutor
CrimpOn
If I may jump in, I have a similar installation as Laineybirdy EXCEPT I have no phone service and nothing connected to my ATT RG. To clarify, I I can connect my Orbi router directly to the Fiber ONT via ethernet and My Orbi will continue to connect to the internet without the ATT modem and just the fiber ONT?
LLZEL
Apr 02, 2020Tutor
Received my ATT Arris modem/router, placed it in IP pass through mode, deactivated 2.4 and 5Ghz wifi, plugged my Orbi WAN jack to LAN port on Arris and all works good. Didn't have to change anything on my connected or wifi attached devices. I did try to plug the Orbi directly to the Fiber box, bypassing the Arris modem and got nothing.
- FURRYe38Apr 02, 2020Guru - Experienced User
Your ISP may require the use of there modem/router with there Fiber box. Something to ask them to see if it can be removed and the Orbi RBR put in it's place.
LLZEL wrote:Received my ATT Arris modem/router, placed it in IP pass through mode, deactivated 2.4 and 5Ghz wifi, plugged my Orbi WAN jack to LAN port on Arris and all works good. Didn't have to change anything on my connected or wifi attached devices. I did try to plug the Orbi directly to the Fiber box, bypassing the Arris modem and got nothing.
- radarrabJun 11, 2020Aspirant
I also have had a similar setup for a while, but was trying something and need some help. I haven't yet changed either device according to the Options 2 and 3 given to the OP.
I have the same models, fiber, with voice but it's through Sonic (using ATT's fiber). The voice has a separate box connected to 1 of the 4 Arris ethernet ports and not the Voice port.
I don't remember whether I had changed anything when I first set this up, but had to reset the Arris when my internet was out. So both wifi's were on, and both were DHCP servers at least after that. The Arris gave the Orbi a 192.x.x.x IP address for its gateway, as well as for other network devices. The Orbi uses 10.x.x.x also for other network devices.
There are two reasons I got the Orbi+1 satellite, and neither of them have been solved. I have a small older one-story house (old electrical, but that's another issue). Besides laptops, phone/tablet, wireless printer, and another old networked printer that I had set up to be able to use over wifi (but is out of toner so may give that up), there are the below:
1--I have two wifi Roku devices, one Express (which only can do 2.4GHz), and a Streaming Stick (can do either, but there's no way to designate which to use on the Roku).
Supposedly having the fiber should have solved buffering issues, but at least one channel sometimes says its buffering because it's too slow, even if my cloud backup isn't actively backing up.
2--I thought I'd be able to connect USB hard drives to the USB ports on the Orbi, to replace a TP-Link W8980 which can enable me to use those drives wirelessly (and the interface allows me to see them and disconnect them in the software). It's an old ADSL modem/router, and I was only using the router part, but it's older and I can't use my newer 4Tb drive on it (it can only go to 2Tb). That doesn't work, and also doesn't work on the Arris. I thought I'd try connecting the TP-Link via ethernet to the Orbi just to see if that would work with the smaller hard drive, but I couldn't see it anywhere (in Orbi or as the following). With the old network setup, I could access the shares by entering \\192.x.x.x, the IP address of the TP-Link in Windows Explorer, and both volumes would show up.
So, I have three things.
1) Not sure which router should be the DHCP server, and which set of numbers to use where (192.x.x.x or 10.x.x.x or both). I was getting confused by the Arris giving the Orbi the 192.x.x.x for gateway then when I tried to use the same 192.x.x.x on the Orbi for DHCP and not use the Arris, it said I couldn't because of the gateway.
At the moment I can't get to the Orbi unless I connect directly with a cable (I tried some ways to have its IP different from 10.x.x.x but it didn't seem to work).
2) Is it possible to force the Roku streaming stick to use the 5GHz band?
3) If I had the rest set up properly, would my idea of connecting the TP-Link (or some newer similar device that can handle 4Tb, why I was testing) work via ethernet to the Orbi?
Thanks.
- FURRYe38Jun 11, 2020Guru - Experienced User
radarrab wrote:So, I have three things.
1) Not sure which router should be the DHCP server, and which set of numbers to use where (192.x.x.x or 10.x.x.x or both). I was getting confused by the Arris giving the Orbi the 192.x.x.x for gateway then when I tried to use the same 192.x.x.x on the Orbi for DHCP and not use the Arris, it said I couldn't because of the gateway.
At the moment I can't get to the Orbi unless I connect directly with a cable (I tried some ways to have its IP different from 10.x.x.x but it didn't seem to work).
If the ARRIS modem has a router then the Orbi working in router mode will use a different IP address, i.e. 10.x.x.x for the RBRs LAN side pool. While the Arris uses 192.x.x.x. This is normal.
2) Is it possible to force the Roku streaming stick to use the 5GHz band?
Its up to wifi devices to pick and choose which signal to connect too. try turning down the power output of the RBRs wifi radios from 100% to 50% and see if this changes anything. Under Advanced Tab/Advanced Settings/Wireless Settings
3) If I had the rest set up properly, would my idea of connecting the TP-Link (or some newer similar device that can handle 4Tb, why I was testing) work via ethernet to the Orbi?
Orbi does not support USB drives being connected to the USB port. Unfortuneately.
You may want to simplify your configuration and use the modem as your host router and the Orbi in AP mode. Then you'll be al on 1 IP address pool and limit problems seen with having two routers on the same line.
This would be a double NAT (two router) condition which isn't recommended. https://kb.netgear.com/30186/What-is-Double-NAT
https://kb.netgear.com/30187/How-to-fix-issues-with-Double-NAT