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gb2bg
Sep 25, 2020Aspirant
RBS50 Behaving Weirdly with Wired Backhaul
My satellite's been acting up. At first I was not able to connect to the satellite upstairs in the office (wired Backhaul) thought it was something with the firmware so updated that to 2.7, and everyt...
- Sep 29, 2020
With v70 loaded on my RBK50 system, I am seeing a ARP storm when the RBS is connected with two or more LAN switches in between teh RBR and RBS. I see a short ARP storm with just 1 switch in between then stops. My network has 3 switches in between the RBR and RBS. I've reported this alredy to NG support. This wasn't a problem with v16 loaded or prior versions of FW back to v2.3.0.32 when I first recieved a RBR50. So my one RBS is now wirelessly connected to the RBR in AP Mode. RBS is in the basement and the RBR is on 2nd level.
gb2bg
Sep 29, 2020Aspirant
This is from 2017 and it describes my problem https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-Ethernet-Backhaul-causing-broadcast-storm/td-p/1457967
Specifically this from
2017-12-18 08:22 AM
Re: Orbi Ethernet Backhaul causing broadcast storm
I just wasted another 2 hours on with Tech Support. After reflashing the firmware my Orbi Router will no longer show either devices or satellites connected (both are 0). This is a problem if you need to reserve DHCP leases for specific MACs (yes, I can enter it in by hand, but that's not why I paid $500). The satellites show they're connected, but none of my wireless devices want to connect to them, only the router...which shows no connections.
FURRYe38
Sep 29, 2020Guru - Experienced User
With v70 loaded on my RBK50 system, I am seeing a ARP storm when the RBS is connected with two or more LAN switches in between teh RBR and RBS. I see a short ARP storm with just 1 switch in between then stops. My network has 3 switches in between the RBR and RBS. I've reported this alredy to NG support. This wasn't a problem with v16 loaded or prior versions of FW back to v2.3.0.32 when I first recieved a RBR50. So my one RBS is now wirelessly connected to the RBR in AP Mode. RBS is in the basement and the RBR is on 2nd level.
- gb2bgSep 29, 2020Aspirant
If I am reading my network right (LOL), I have only one switch between the RBR and RBS, which is the switch part of ErX. MoCA is pretty much transparent here.
I might have to do what you did, take my RBS50 wireless, which is fine because it only serves wireless devices on the 2nd floor (lighter load). I tried to replace my netgear switch with the RBS50 hoping to minimize the devices but looks like I have no choice now.
Given this, I might start looking into other ubiquity stuff for wireless AP as the Orbi is almost obselete for my use case.
FURRYe38I greatly appreciate your help here. One last question, how do you detect an ARP storm? My router logs show nothing.
- FURRYe38Sep 29, 2020Guru - Experienced User
Been using this for years now.
https://codebox.net/pages/bitmeteros
Since MS stopped showing network activity on there network icon after XP, this has come in handy.
- FURRYe38Sep 29, 2020Guru - Experienced User
This is web brower based. Do a search on the web for the installer app version.
- gb2bgSep 30, 2020Aspirant
Weird, I found Bitmeter2 (the installer version) but it wouldn't install on Win10 because of the .net framework versioning (it's asking for 4.7.2) and when I download 4.7.2, Windows says higher verison already installed.
Ugh..
- FURRYe38Sep 30, 2020Guru - Experienced User
Ya I remember seeing that on Server 2016. I don't remember seeing that on Windows 10. Thought I can't remeber if I ran in to that problems or not. Been too long.
Yan can try dumeter as see:
https://www.hageltech.com/dumeter/about
Been a while since I've used this.
- FURRYe38Sep 30, 2020Guru - Experienced User
I believe Windows 8-10 introduced built in monitoring tools:
And Resource Manager has been around since NT/XP I think:
- gb2bgSep 30, 2020Aspirant
Thanks for that! I was looking at Network Monitoring Tool 3.x too. Any tips on what specifically to monitor?
- FURRYe38Sep 30, 2020Guru - Experienced User
Just look at ethernet activity or overall activity on the line is all. When the network is stable you shouldn't see much activity. When a ARP storm happens it will be very active and continue to be active until the storm stops.
Example of an ARM storm in BitMeter: