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New - RBR50 / RBS50 Firmware Version 2.7.0.70 Officially Released
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Ok, I was curious as to what the auto update servers were offering up with v16 loaded.
gr8sho wrote:
FURRYe38 wrote:What Fw version do you have currently loaded? .
It was on 2.5.1.16 as I ignored the prior update notification for the Nintendo switch fix.
I used the iOS app to let the update proceed. It completed successfully.
Used the check for updates and this version is the latest on offer.
FURRYe38wrote:
Ok, I was curious as to what the auto update servers were offering up with v16 loaded.
My assumption is NG will recommend downlevel devices to move to a current release. Using the app is likely the most prominent way customers will administer their device. I also checked the browser management GUI and it also offered this 2.7.0 level. I realize in the past this push turned out badly for many, and was prepared to factory reset if needed.
In my case it appears to have worked out correctly.
"Using the app is likely the most prominent way customers will administer their device. "
I never use the app and many have reported false readings there.
At the end of the day one has to ask why upgrade the FW? Was your network experiencing problems? If you NEED to update it is recommended that you read the release notes to determine if the update is of your concern. Sometimes an update or fix is to address things like Disney, Armour, i.e., etc. These may not be something you utilize.
vajim wrote:"Using the app is likely the most prominent way customers will administer their device. "
I never use the app and many have reported false readings there.
At the end of the day one has to ask why upgrade the FW? Was your network experiencing problems? If you NEED to update it is recommended that you read the release notes to determine if the update is of your concern. Sometimes an update or fix is to address things like Disney, Armour, i.e., etc. These may not be something you utilize.
Usually there are security considerations. So even if there isn't a new feature or a fix to specific functionality you use, firmware updates are still usually a good idea.
lukpac wrote:
vajim wrote:The good ones are.....around here the first out of the box appear to a mess. Your choice. I prefer to wait.
You're free to upgrade (or not). But you asked "why upgrade?" and I gave an answer. Security is an important consideration.
OK.....as long as you don't imply that security is not a concern of mine. I can only tell you what I've seen in here. Do a search for yourself. Hundreds of posts where uers just had to have the next wiz bang update and it fouled up their network that was working fine.
You asked....
vajim wrote:OK.....as long as you don't imply that security is not a concern of mine. I can only tell you what I've seen in here. Do a search for yourself. Hundreds of posts where uers just had to have the next wiz bang update and it fouled up their network that was working fine.
You asked....
I actually didn't ask.
I guess I've been lucky though. I've had very few issues with updates.
I must of read it somewhere else...sorry.
Glad you're good to go.
gr8sho wrote:
vajim wrote:Your choice. I prefer to wait.
Fine, I'll play along. What firmware version is yours on. And as for waiting, wait for what exactly?
2.5.something. As I don't care. And as for waiting I guess I'm not spending my day reloading a webpage or Orbi app for the next update . I'm just not anxious. The real question may be why crucify me when all I ready did was state a position. If you don't subscribe to the same scroll on.
I'm a new RBK50 user (inatalled it yesterday). It sees ver 2.5.2.4 as the current version.
Everything works fine. I am not in a hurry to change the firmware (unless there's serious security-related update).
Are firmware updates forced on me when the Orbi discovers newer firmware (there are many newer ones already)?
Can I deny those firmware updates?
Thx.
Aloke
alokeprasad wrote:I'm a new RBK50 user (inatalled it yesterday). It sees ver 2.5.2.4 as the current version.
Everything works fine. I am not in a hurry to change the firmware (unless there's serious security-related update).
Are firmware updates forced on me when the Orbi discovers newer firmware (there are many newer ones already)?
Can I deny those firmware updates?
Thx.
Aloke
I received a message from the moderator here awhile back that said the only firmware updates that are pushed (no action or clicking required by the user) were those with major security updates. All other 'available' updates are at the user discretion.
Some of the confusion appears to be when users see that an update is available and they think they must update or they have this strong urge or desire to update. The choice is up to the user.if you do a search on firmware updates here you'll read many posts from those who upgraded early and ended having to revert because the firmware was faulty. The biggest problem is dealing with the many different ways users configure their networks.
The choice is yours.
I's like some confirmation that I can decline updates that are not related to security. The problem is, often the Reslease Notes will simply asy "security fixes" without getting into any details. Hard to decide what to do then.
There is a listing on
https://www.netgear.com/about/security/
but it is a lot of work to figure out what's fixed in which firmware version. They should list the PSV# of the security issues in the Release Notes for each update.
The other pet peeve of mine is the need to reset all settings after firmware updates. At the very least, one should be able to save settings to a file, update firmware, reset to defaults and then re-import settings. Whats the point of settings backup/resptore feature if this is not advised?
I have lots of devices that I have named, and it is a pain to have to repeat all that every time. Besides, one can miss some setting and have problems because of that.
Rant-mode off
in some cases I've seen updates where the release notes talk about security. Then they too cause problems. There is no perfect world. Do what you feel is right.
As far as the settings, some suggest saving your settings prior to reset then reload the old setting. Do a search.
Enjoy
v70 is superseded by this version:
up to you if you want to manually updated or not. I don't think it's up on NG auto update servers yet.
IF you see notification on the RBRs web page about a FW update, it's up to you if you want update to this notice or not.
alokeprasad wrote:I'm a new RBK50 user (inatalled it yesterday). It sees ver 2.5.2.4 as the current version.
Everything works fine. I am not in a hurry to change the firmware (unless there's serious security-related update).
Are firmware updates forced on me when the Orbi discovers newer firmware (there are many newer ones already)?
Can I deny those firmware updates?
Thx.
Aloke
Also v4 has been superseded by this version as well:
So at some point you may see notficiation on the RBR for this version.
alokeprasad wrote:I'm a new RBK50 user (inatalled it yesterday). It sees ver 2.5.2.4 as the current version.
Everything works fine. I am not in a hurry to change the firmware (unless there's serious security-related update).
Are firmware updates forced on me when the Orbi discovers newer firmware (there are many newer ones already)?
Can I deny those firmware updates?
Thx.
Aloke
One final thought.....some here advocate updates regardless of your network or how it's configured. How could they know? In their mind (and some will even post link advertisements to update links) all updates should be applied right away.
As I've stated it's your choice. User beware
An additional final thought.....no wonder there's so much confusion on firmware updates. Just went to the download area for the RBR50 and there are 3 different firmware versions available for download. How does that help the consumer other than to provide a fix for not ready for prime time release? A way back, a rescue. How is that any different than saying we're not sure how all of this will work or if it will not crash your network. Just an observation
vajim wrote:2.5.something. As I don't care. And as for waiting I guess I'm not spending my day reloading a webpage or Orbi app for the next update . I'm just not anxious. The real question may be why crucify me when all I ready did was state a position. If you don't subscribe to the same scroll on.
I'm merely curious. 2.7 has been out for a long time. Were I bleeding edge, I'd grab the newer version. In my mind I'm being conservative. And were I to get into a discussion with NG support, I'd want to avoid the up front round of questions about being on the latest recommended version of firmware.
And having read through all the posts, I still don't have a sense of what would drive you to update, or if you'll leave the router on 2.5 in perpetuity.I thought last time he mentioned something was that he was a proponent of v32 from 2019...
I've tried v2.6 and 2.7 versions, they seem ok, but don't work if your RBS is ethernet connected.
gr8sho wrote:I'm merely curious. 2.7 has been out for a long time. Were I bleeding edge, I'd grab the newer version. In my mind I'm being conservative. And were I to get into a discussion with NG support, I'd want to avoid the up front round of questions about being on the latest recommended version of firmware.
And having read through all the posts, I still don't have a sense of what would drive you to update, or if you'll leave the router on 2.5 in perpetuity.
gr8sho wrote:
vajim wrote:2.5.something. As I don't care. And as for waiting I guess I'm not spending my day reloading a webpage or Orbi app for the next update . I'm just not anxious. The real question may be why crucify me when all I ready did was state a position. If you don't subscribe to the same scroll on.
I'm merely curious. 2.7 has been out for a long time. Were I bleeding edge, I'd grab the newer version. In my mind I'm being conservative. And were I to get into a discussion with NG support, I'd want to avoid the up front round of questions about being on the latest recommended version of firmware.
And having read through all the posts, I still don't have a sense of what would drive you to update, or if you'll leave the router on 2.5 in perpetuity.I don’t live for FW updates which I’ve stated in here many times. I was on V2.3.5.30 since 08Oct19 and then updated to V2.5.2 on 03Nov20. This was only because my network became unstable, lost connects, etc. At the same time, I had a rep from my ISP come out and he replaced a connection in our front yard. Then (it gets better) I upgraded my 5 year old modem. So how do we know that the FW update is what fixed my problems. We don’t. At lease it didn’t make it any worse. When will I update my FW again? I don't know and don't stay awake at night worrying about it.
What gets me is the number of people that jump on the FW update as soon as it hits the street only to be back in here asking for help. Most of the responses suggest everything BUT the firmware. Like they’re dancing around the fire. House size and neighbors is my favorites.
FYI…NG support will always drive you through a host of questions and insist you stay ‘current’ with the latest and greatest FW. The reality is they can NOT guarantee the latest FW will not cause you problems.
Again…the choice is yours. Do what sets you free and not worry about what I do since it perhaps makes no sense to you.
vajim wrote:At the end of the day one has to ask why upgrade the FW?
There are usually security fixes in firmware updates, some documented, and some not, so it's a good idea to always stay up-to-date on firmware updates.
Just_Lurking wrote:
vajim wrote:At the end of the day one has to ask why upgrade the FW?
There are usually security fixes in firmware updates, some documented, and some not, so it's a good idea to always stay up-to-date on firmware updates.
Ok
I have a bad idea
