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ddigler
Jun 12, 2020Aspirant
Sats connect via daisy chain even though DC is OFF?
My RBR40 and (2) RBS20 sats were connected via daisy chain for weeks; all working well with good backhaul. Last night my son had a friend overnight so I activated the guest network from the app. This...
- Jun 13, 2020In fairness I need to check back for the good of the community after the rant above. Apparently the recent firmware update that rolled out, I want to say it was a week or two ago, did not update one of my satellites correctly. The more I poked around in the router settings from my PC browser, I was noticing problems with the firmware version listed for my one satellite that was acting up and subsequently likely causing all of the poor backhaul reports and daisy chaining mayhem.
I ended up retrieving the IP address of the satellite itself, using my router login credentials, and logging directly into that satellite on my network. From there I was able to use the firmware update functionality of the satellite itself. I downloaded the newest firmware for my satellite from the Netgear website and flashed it using the connection directly to the affected satellite.
From there it was time for another full factory reset, all three devices. Bunch more messing around with tweaking placement here and there but I am back up and running. I’d like to thank anyone above who took time out of their schedule to help me through it. I know how important firmware is and should have dug deeper. The app is only going to tell you the firmware version of your router itself I realize now the importance of digging into the router interface on a web browser when troubleshooting difficult issues.
Orby stays in my house as of this time; we shall see what the future holds.
ddigler
Jun 12, 2020Aspirant
using firmware v2.5.1.16
I'll have to check my ISP's modem I am using
3,200sf including my finished basement
Distance between router and sat 1 - approx 30'
Router to sat 2 40' maybe?
No, I have not done a factory reset and setup from scratch since last FW update. Necessary step at this point?
FURRYe38
Jun 12, 2020Guru - Experienced User
I woulds try a reset and setup from scratch. I would not synce the RBS during the setup. After you complete the RBR setup, go in and disable Daisy Chain and ensure the RBR reboots. Enable Beamforming and MIMO. After the RBR ready, wirelessly re-sync 1 RBS at a time. I would do these near the RBR or in the same room initially. Then once the RBS are added, place them in there remote locations.
Check the Orbi app to see if the RBS are each connected directly to the RBR or if the RBS is connected to each other in a chain. Should each be directly connected to the RBR with dotted lines.
- ddiglerJun 12, 2020AspirantOK I’ll give that a shot thanks.
You bring up so many points. So if you questions. Do I factory reset the sats as well?
So you want MIMO beamforming on and daisy chain off. Will any of these settings negatively impact stuff? I guess in my ignorance what I’m asking is if these are better options why don’t they come out this way by default?
Going to give it a go I’ll check back thank you again.- ddiglerJun 12, 2020AspirantAlso, how do you handle the guest network? I like the idea of toggling it off and on but I can’t tell if this was a freak thing or if it’s going to break it every time I turn off and on.
ISP supplied modem is an Arris touchstone SB6183- CrimpOnJun 12, 2020Guru - Experienced User
ddigler wrote:
Also, how do you handle the guest network? I like the idea of toggling it off and on but I can’t tell if this was a freak thing or if it’s going to break it every time I turn off and on."Guest" is intensely personal, and people seem to have strong opinions.
- The "most convenient" for visitors is to activate the guest WiFi (with a slightly different name) and no password.
Just tell people, "Connect to 'BirdHouse'" and they're in. No hassle.
But, of course, this means any old person can borrow your internet connection. They cannot interfere with your local network or spy on you, but they could (in theory) be eating up your bandwidth.
How much "risk" is this? God knows. Some people would be paranoid and could never do this.
One might be tempted to use Guest with no password, but turn it on and off. (This may be what you did.) - The "next most convenient" is to leave guest activated, but have a reasonably easy to enter pass phrase, such as "MealWorms".
A 9 character password has at least 62^9 possible combinations (which multiplies out to 16 times 218,340,105,584,896.
(a VERY big number of possibilities.) In other words, no random stranger is going to guess it.
Secure enough for banking? Probably not. - What many people do is simply tell visitors their WiFi password. These are usually not random strangers. Mostly family and close friends. (Houses with teenagers are a whole different situation.)
I can verify that activating (or deactivating) the Guest account "restarts" the Orbi WiFi radios. My security system complains "lost network connection". Streaming stops. There will be yells from all over the house. My recommendation is to pick a strategy and stick with it. Don't be turning it on and off all the time. Having Guest activated with no one connected will not consume vast amounts of resources.
- The "most convenient" for visitors is to activate the guest WiFi (with a slightly different name) and no password.