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Streaming from network devices stops due to constant DHCP lease renewal?
I've had nothing but trouble with the orbi system but mostly we have battled to a stalemate. The one remaining thing I can't tolerate is constant dropping of streams from Apple TV, Amazon Fire sticks...
Keep us posted on how it goes. Hope something helps. Streaming should work well.
lizabny wrote:
FURRYe38 wrote:
V2.2.1.210What FW is currently loaded?
ISP is Spectrum Charter, and modem is Arris T1602AWhat is the Mfr and model# of the ISP modem the NG router is connected too?
What is the distance between the router and satellite(s)? 30 feet is recommended in between them to begin with depending upon building materials.router to sat1 is 57', router to sat2 is 42', sat1 to sat2 is 52 - I've tried several different configs, this is just where they're at right now.
auto on 2.4, and 48 on 5. mac scan shows 11 is best for 2.4 and it is currently on 8, so I'll change that. 161 is best for 5, but that's not an option through the ui, and I haven't been able to telnet in to change it as instructed in some post.What channels are you using? Auto? Try setting manual channel 1, 6 or 11 on 2.4Ghz and any unused channel on 5Ghz.
Any Wifi Neighbors near by? If so, how many?Of course, yes. My strongest RSSI via the mac scan comes in at -74 and shows three bars where I am scanning from in my office. There are seven others, strongest at -85 (two bars), weakest at -94 (one bar).
done (noting that ipv6 was already disabled, and based on note below and that I'm on .210, I left daisy chain enabled) I'll check back in a day or so with updates on these settings.Try disabling the following and see:
MIMO, Daisy Chain, Fast Roaming, IPv6 and Set 20/40Mhz Coexistence to 40Mhz only. Save settings and reboot the router and satellite(s).
I'll run this for a day or so, and may switch daisy chain to see if that helps/hurts. ditto for fast roaming.If you updated to recent FW v.210, try enabling Daisy Chain. Some have mentioned that this seems to be working in reverse order, enabling means disabled actually for R-S-S.
I've also been reading and trying the things at https://windsorwebdeveloper.com/making-netgear-orbi-great-again/ up to this point, and have dropped the 2.4 signal to 25% (I want to discourage 2.4 swapping) and 5 to 75%. And I've set my mac network hardware mtu to 1453. I may stop making so many changes or reset and do some things one at a time, if I have time to further troubleshoot once the system is stable.
Thank you for your help!
Well, over the weekend I used the AppleTV quite a bit and didn't see connections drop. This means I'm going to consider the fix to my streaming issues to be the setting of 20/40Mhz Coexistence to 40Mhz only at least for firmware V2.2.1.210. If you also have this problem, I'd suggest you try that first.
Note that:
- 40Mhz is not great and Netgear should really make it so it can be set to 20Mhz only rather than 40Mhz only.
- Netgear should also actually fix whatever bug causes it to drop when switching so we can use the 20/40Mhz coexistence feature. I'll re-check after the next firmware release.
- I still see tons of other bugs: satellites disconnecting, inconsistent UI in the app vs. admin panel, etc... but I'll open new threads of discussion for them
- Despite the forum having plenty of "works for me" responses to complaints, I'd say that overall for me the Orbi has not been worth the trouble it has caused. A 5% problem rate would be really bad and still would mean that 95% of people are happy so every thread would be full of happy stories. Instead we see many issues and almost no means for users to fix, debug or help themselves other than stab randomly at the settings. You can't have Apple-level simplicity in the interface without a corresponding dedication to constraining the things that can go wrong, testing, and bug fixing. Netgear really needs to invest in and focus on reliability. Adding half-baked features makes the problem worse.
Well, I thought it was much better but I've had it drop an Apple Music stream twice within an hour here. My Apple TV is static assigned 10.0.0.8 here and you can see it reissue it:
[admin login] from source 10.0.0.10, Friday, November 30, 2018 15:18:45 [DHCP IP: 10.0.0.8] to MAC address c8:69:cd:39:89:bc, Friday, November 30, 2018 15:18:20 [DHCP IP: 10.0.0.5] to MAC address f8:62:14:0a:d7:f0, Friday, November 30, 2018 15:11:23 [DHCP IP: 10.0.0.12] to MAC address 20:7c:8f:4e:ba:9e, Friday, November 30, 2018 15:06:41 [DHCP IP: 10.0.0.6] to MAC address 00:cd:fe:18:b0:c3, Friday, November 30, 2018 15:06:25 [admin login] from source 10.0.0.10, Friday, November 30, 2018 14:59:38 [admin login] from source 10.0.0.10, Friday, November 30, 2018 14:59:35 [admin login] from source 10.0.0.10, Friday, November 30, 2018 14:59:18 [DHCP IP: 10.0.0.8] to MAC address c8:69:cd:39:89:bc, Friday, November 30, 2018 14:51:54
So... I guess better but still kinda messed up. I wonder if now it's due to 2.4 <---> 5GHz switching as others have reported. I need a better way to debug the DHCP server on this thing.
As a sanity check I used scapy to query DHCP and found only one response on my network... so it's likely not caused by a rouge DHCP server on the network unless it's popping in and out of the network somehow.
Received 21912 packets, got 1 answers, remaining 0 packets >>> ans.summary() Ether / IP / UDP 0.0.0.0:bootpc > 255.255.255.255:bootps / BOOTP / DHCP ==> Ether / IP / UDP 10.0.0.1:bootps > 255.255.255.255:bootpc / BOOTP / DHCP
Have you tried a full factory reset on the system and set up from scratch?
Set up some IP address reservations. I would change the IP address pool from default to .100. thru .200. Then add reservatsions for your devices.
Also power cycle your ISP modem OFF for 1 minute as well then back on.
Set manual wifi channels, 1, 6 and 11. Streaming should be happening over 5ghz if your not streaming wired.