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Switching backhaul from wifi to wired caused problems...
Guess the old adage if it ain't broke don't fix it applied here. After years of use I decided to try and switch my Orby router and satellites to an ethernet backhaul from Wi-Fi. The Orbi router i...
FURRYe38,
I am not sure what that will get me. The satellites are functioning on the ethernet backhaul and there are connected devices and "unattached" devices to each of the satellites and that are functioning on the network.
Everything appears to be working it is just the web and app interfaces that appear to be provising inaccurate information.
Checking to see if the switches could be interferring with web UI and Orbi app reporting of devices. Wondering if no switches are in the mix, does this still happen or not. If it still happens, then it maybe a FW issue.
Something also to look at and try:
https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Missing-Connected-Devices/m-p/2142349/highlight/true#M126110
I do not feel there is a need for me to test this. I would have to get or make a 40+ foot cable to connect to the distant satellite where it is located. Else It would liklely not attach to the devices that are working, yet not showing up and are at the other end of the house.
Something you can test out with the RBS in same room or near the RBR.
Well, eitherway, something to let NG support know about. if it's a FW or app issue, NG will need to review and look into it. Nothing else here we can do otherwise.
PKleeberg wrote:
I do not feel there is a need for me to test this. I would have to get or make a 40+ foot cable to connect to the distant satellite where it is located. Else It would liklely not attach to the devices that are working, yet not showing up and are at the other end of the house.
Exactly the reason I purchased some 50' ethernet cables from Amazon. At under $15 each, I always have a cable on hand to wire up a new PoE security camera. And to do crazy experiments like this, which I do only when alone in the house.
CrimpOn Yes and I probably have about 900' left in a box of cat6 cable that I use do create create my own wires as needed. The ones I installed years ago are 5e. I ain's as limber as I used to be so I am not going to crawl switch them to Cat6 unless I need to. I just measured it. If I wanted to directly connect the RBR and RBS without moving either of them, doubling back on stairs etc, it appears I would need la cable 141' long.
By the way, is there any way to test the speed between the RBR and the RBS including packets lost?
Paul
Cat 5e is perfectly capable of gigabit speed over distances up to 90 meters, so typical house wiring is "no problem."
I know of no Orbi feature that reports the backhaul performance. My "go to" tool for this is iPerf3.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iperf I use the Windows, Linux, and Android versions. https://iperf.fr/iperf-download.php
When I connect Intel i7 cpu two desktop computers to the Orbi gigabit LAN ports, iPerf3 typically reports 920+mb/sec in both directions. (Ethernet being full duplex). For example, I read that the Raspberry Pi model 4 has 'native gigabit' whereas the model 3b+ was just faking gigabit. Sure enough, Windows to Pi4b reported 945mb in both directions and the 3b+ reported only 256mb. If you set up iPerf3 on both sides of a backhaul, that will measure the raw throughput of the link. The WiFi backhaul link has considerable overhead and is inherently half duplex, so I would be interested to see what you measure.
My other main tool is hrping. https://www.cfos.de/en/ping/ping.htm#google_vignette It is available only for Windows, so I use the desktop that is cabled directly to the Orbi router to test ping responses from various devices on the network. I ran some tests generating 5,000 pings between the base machine and various devices, some across the WiFi backhaul and calculated the maximum, minimum, average, etc. (see attached)
Between raw throughput and variability in ping responces, it is possible to get a rough idea of what is going on (I hope).
