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Trying to use RBR 50 instead of Verizon Router -Orbi RBR50 with 3 satellites
I currently have my Orbi setup in A/P mode and am using with my Verizon FIOS gateway router. I also have a subscription with Netgear Armor for Bitdefender. The system works fine in A/P mode, but I lo...
Your ISP Modem already has a built in router and wifi. This would be a double NAT (two router) condition which isn't recommended. https://kb.netgear.com/30186/What-is-Double-NAT
https://kb.netgear.com/30187/How-to-fix-issues-with-Double-NAT
Couple of options,
1. Configure the modem for transparent bridge or modem only mode. Then use the Orbi router in router mode. You'll need to contact the ISP for help and information in regards to the modem being bridged correctly.
2. If you can't bridge the modem, disable ALL wifi radios on the modem, configure the modems DMZ/ExposedHost or IP Pass-Through for the IP address the Orbi router gets from the modem. Then you can use the Orbi router in Router mode.
3. Or disable all wifi radios on the modem and connect the Orbi router to the modem, configure AP mode on the Orbi router. https://kb.netgear.com/31218/How-do-I-configure-my-Orbi-router-to-act-as-an-access-point and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7LOcJ8GdDo&app=desktop
Try option #2 first.
https://kb.netgear.com/31100/How-do-I-set-up-my-Orbi-system-to-work-with-Fios
https://www.flyn.org/notes/g1100-bridge/
Thank you so much for your quick response. I will admit I do not totally understand everything you have said however, I agree Option 2 is where I am trying to get to. When you say "disable ALL Wi-Fi radios on the modem" do you mean on the Verizon Quantum Gateway? If so, I already completed that step when I set up my system initially following these instructions you refer to...https://kb.netgear.com/31100/How-do-I-set-up-my-Orbi-system-to-work-with-Fios.
Not sure how to do this step in your instructions..."configure the modems DMZ/Exposed Host or IP Pass-Through for the IP address the Orbi router gets from the modem". Is what you are referring to in this link...https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Trying-to-use-RBK50-instead-of-FIOS-router/m-p/1885585/highlig...?
I assume you mean...
Enjoy.
@Grethferth wrote:
Problem was solved. I had to put the old Verizon router back online and release the IP from the Fios routes admin console. Once that happened the Orbi could see the Internet.
One other thing that happened was the DNS IP's needed to be changed (auto populated by Verizon), as they also interfeared with the connection to the Internet. I just went with 1.1.1.1 and 1.0.0.1, which worked fine.
Greth
Is the above what you are saying to do??? Do I get to the DSP's by going into the orbilogin.net and changing my Orbi DSP's there along with changing my Orbi from A/P mode back to router mode?
Thanks so much!!!
BrianJ44 wrote:
Thank you so much for your quick response. I will admit I do not totally understand everything you have said however, I agree Option 2 is where I am trying to get to. When you say "disable ALL Wi-Fi radios on the modem" do you mean on the Verizon Quantum Gateway? If so, I already completed that step when I set up my system initially following these instructions you refer to...https://kb.netgear.com/31100/How-do-I-set-up-my-Orbi-system-to-work-with-Fios.
YES.
Not sure how to do this step in your instructions..."configure the modems DMZ/Exposed Host or IP Pass-Through for the IP address the Orbi router gets from the modem". Is what you are referring to in this link...https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Trying-to-use-RBK50-instead-of-FIOS-router/m-p/1885585/highlig...?
I assume you mean...
No, on the Verizon modem there should be DMZ or IP Pass thru function. Check your ISP support pages or contact the ISP on the phone on how to configure this option for the Orbi router.
@Grethferth wrote:
Problem was solved. I had to put the old Verizon router back online and release the IP from the Fios routes admin console. Once that happened the Orbi could see the Internet.
One other thing that happened was the DNS IP's needed to be changed (auto populated by Verizon), as they also interfeared with the connection to the Internet. I just went with 1.1.1.1 and 1.0.0.1, which worked fine.
Greth
Is the above what you are saying to do??? Do I get to the DSP's by going into the orbilogin.net and changing my Orbi DSP's there along with changing my Orbi from A/P mode back to router mode? IF this user did this with his Orbi system connected to the Verizon router, then yes, you'll need to log in to the RBR and configure these specific DNS addresses while the RBR is in router mode.
- Thank you so much for your help greatly appreciated!