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Voice over Wifi
Cell service in my area is bad, so I use voice over WiFi on my iPhone. My internet service max speed is only 12 MBS, very slow. Once I switched to using the RBK50 mesh router, about 50% of the times t...
DMZ is a generic term and reference made here in the forums. It can refer to many variations of DMZ and it's operations since there seems to be some variations of it used thru out the industry.
Glad the new FW is working better and seem to fix this.
Enjoy. :smileywink:
freibooter wrote:
FURRYe38 wrote:
Does the fritz box have a DMZ? If you can't bridge the modem, disable ALL wifi radios on the modem, configure the modems DMZ for the IP address the Orbi router gets from the modem. Then you can use the Orbi router in Router mode.
Well, as I said, it has a correctly labled Exposed Host function which I am using to forward all incoming traffic to the Orbi. That's not remotely the same as a DMZ, but that's exactly what you mean when you and what feels like just about everyone else these days is using the term DMZ incorrectly (see "DMZ Host" in the related Wikipedia entry). Naturally, all wifi radios are disabled. And, as I said, the exact same configuration had no issues with previous Netgear routers.
The good news: The issue hasn't re-occurred since upgrading to v2.3.0.28
So far it looks like whatever bug had caused the VoWiFi issues has finally been resolved in the latest firmware.
FURRYe38 wrote:
DMZ is a generic term and reference made here in the forums. It can refer to many variations of DMZ and it's operations since there seems to be some variations of it used thru out the industry.
DMZ is a well defined computer security term that's interchangeable with screened subnet. There are no correct "variations" of the term.
Some routers incorrectly use the term "DMZ host" or "DMZ server" to refer to an exposed host. An exposed host in this context is not a "variation" of a DMZ/screened subnet, it's almost the polar opposite. Many manufacturers, including AVM, have either rectified this or never used this misnomer in the first place, but Netgear appears to still use it according to this KB article: https://kb.netgear.com/1118/How-do-I-configure-a-device-to-be-in-the-DMZ-on-my-NETGEAR-router
Using "DMZ" as a reference to exposed hosts in a home routing environment has some merit due to the historic nature of this misnomer. But you should be aware of the fact that it is not the correct use of the term and that exposed host isn't just another term for it, it's the corrcet term for it.
I suppose the reason for the clarification on my part of the term IP Passthrough vs DMZ is that if someone is trying to forllow given instructions to deal with an Arris device, telling the person to setup the connection in DMZ won't likely have any meaning irrespective of what it does or how it works, and making the effort to set it up in a "bridged connection" is surely better than simply following the default instructions provided by NG. Just for ATT alone they don't even use consistent terminology on their gateways.
And still with all that said, some of these host routers are not as transparent to the internet as they should be IMHO.
ISP HW has been like this for a long time. They don't seem to all use same standard naming conventions. Most modem combos have a DMZ, including router HW. So this is a starting point for most suggestions. I do as about modem model and this allows me to review the model model to see it's details. Then if DMZ isn't supported, we can suggestion IP Passthrough as a suggestion for that particular model modem to see if this help with getting Orbi connected with these particular modems.
Been working with DMZs for a long time. Just know when and where to use them is all.
gr8sho wrote:
I suppose the reason for the clarification on my part of the term IP Passthrough vs DMZ is that if someone is trying to forllow given instructions to deal with an Arris device, telling the person to setup the connection in DMZ won't likely have any meaning irrespective of what it does or how it works, and making the effort to set it up in a "bridged connection" is surely better than simply following the default instructions provided by NG. Just for ATT alone they don't even use consistent terminology on their gateways.
And still with all that said, some of these host routers are not as transparent to the internet as they should be IMHO.
