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Wired back haul better?
I have a Orbi RBR40 setup that replaced a Nighthawk router a while back, the WiFi is much better across our bungalow but we have been getting dropouts and I think it’s the satellite dropping - should...
Shimmyhill wrote:
I have had a play around and now only have one Sonos wired as needed, all others are wireless and now the Orbi units and direct to devices or the switch so not using the Sonos or Home plugs as hubs, revised map attached!
If you have a Sonos device wired, then Sonos will create its own mesh network on 2.4 GHz. It works perfectly with Orbi, but you need to manually set Sonos to use CH1 and Orbi to use CH11 (or vice versa) to avoid interference between the two systems on 2.4 GHz.
Sonos is on channel 1 and has been for 10+ years (wow time flies) and Orbi is on 4 and I don’t think I have any interference issues - I’d rather avoid 11 as loads of neighbours seem to be on that!
I hope there isn’t a co flick between Sonos and Orbi as Sonos is staying as one of our fave purchases ever, never had a conflict before so hoping not!
Any one on Chl 6? 6 would be preferred.
Shimmyhill wrote:
Sonos is on channel 1 and has been for 10+ years (wow time flies) and Orbi is on 4 and I don’t think I have any interference issues - I’d rather avoid 11 as loads of neighbours seem to be on that!
I hope there isn’t a co flick between Sonos and Orbi as Sonos is staying as one of our fave purchases ever, never had a conflict before so hoping not!
As long as you only have one wired device you don't have a risk for loops.
Please note the following regrading Sonos:
- Wiring one speaker will make it possible for you to use the Sonosnet (own wifi mesh).
- You also have the option of having all speakers as wireless if you have good wifi coverage where all speakers are located.
- You get the benifit from Sonosnet only if you don't have good wifi coverage from Orbi and you need the Sonos speakers to provide wifi to each other, please note here that if you use Sonosnet and the speakers wifi ranges are not overlapping then your audio system will not be stable and in this case it's better to use the Orbi wifi instead (all-wireless speakers).
- The speaker's mesh was always better for me, but now since I have excellent wifi coverage with Orbi, it's far more better to use the Orbi Wifi than the speaker's wifi, so I'm connecting all my 10 speakers wirelessly and the audio system is far more stable now than when I used the speakers wifi mesh (when I had wired speakers to enable the speakers' wifi mesh).
Shimmyhill wrote:
Sonos is on channel 1 and has been for 10+ years (wow time flies) and Orbi is on 4 and I don’t think I have any interference issues - I’d rather avoid 11 as loads of neighbours seem to be on that!
I hope there isn’t a co flick between Sonos and Orbi as Sonos is staying as one of our fave purchases ever, never had a conflict before so hoping not!
You should only ever use CH1, CH6, or CH11 on 2.4 GHz. These are the only three non-overlapping channels in the 2.4 GHz band. Using CH4 is a poor choice, as it overlaps with CH1 and CH6 and prevents your Orbi from coordinarting with neighboring APs to avoid interference. You are better off being on the same channel as neighboring APs, because the APs can share the airtime.
Orbi will always try to use 40 MHz channel width. If Orbi is using 40 MHz channel width, then the only two non-overlapping channels are CH1 and CH11. That's why when you use Sonosnet and Orbi in the same house, your choices are CH1 or CH11.
The way you have things set there will be some interference. See below.
st_shaw wrote:If Orbi is using 40 MHz channel width, then the only two non-overlapping channels are CH1 and CH11. That's why when you use Sonosnet and Orbi in the same house, your choices are CH1 or CH11.
Correct!
And therefore -if you have good wifi coverage from Orbi all over the house- then you can save one channel and avoid more interference by using only wireless speakers and avoid Sonosnet. :)
ekhalil wrote:
st_shaw wrote:If Orbi is using 40 MHz channel width, then the only two non-overlapping channels are CH1 and CH11. That's why when you use Sonosnet and Orbi in the same house, your choices are CH1 or CH11.
Correct!
And therefore -if you have good wifi coverage from Orbi all over the house- then you can save one channel and avoid more interference by using only wireless speakers and avoid Sonosnet. :)
If you live in an area with numerous neighboring 2.4 GHz APs, then it may be best to use WiFi. If not, and the channels on Orbi and Sonos are properly set, there will be no interference between the two and they will work perfectly together. You assume there is no benefit to using Sonosnet, which is not entirely true. First, Sonosnet is a true mesh, and can effectively cover a larger area than Orbi, if you have many Sonos devices. Second, you can use any one of your Sonos devices as a wireless bridge for printers or other low bandwidth devices. Last, when you set Sonos to use WiFi, the Sonos devices will use airtime that would otherwise be available to Orbi, so there is actually more "interference" when using WiFi instead of Sonosnet on non-overlapping channels.
Should I use 11 even with a few neighbours seemingly on it or 6 with no one on it?
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Shimmyhill wrote:
Should I use 11 even with a few neighbours seemingly on it or 6 with no one on it?
Having rescanned in a front room I have four people on 6 and three on 11!!
All detached but bungalows so nothing behind due to decent harden two either side and people over the road I guess.
Try 4 for a while, then you can test 6. If the Orbi seems to be working on 4...go with it...
Shimmyhill wrote:
Having rescanned in a front room I have four people on 6 and three on 11!!
All detached but bungalows so nothing behind due to decent harden two either side and people over the road I guess.
Shimmyhill wrote:
Having rescanned in a front room I have four people on 6 and three on 11!!
All detached but bungalows so nothing behind due to decent harden two either side and people over the road I guess.
What is on CH1?
His Sonos devices...
