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Wired home - Orbi vs. Router + ?
(tl;dr, mesh or traditional in a wire house?) Hey all, When I moved into my house, I made sure we ran ethernet to all rooms. It's a 2,400 sq foot home, minus the basement (which is ... 1,200 ...
st_shaw - thanks. While I want to say I'm OK giving up control and stats, I'm not. The Orbi does leave much to be desired in regards to control and ... it just feels flakey. So many little oddities I've experienced within the web app and my confidence is low in the stability of the platform given the past several hours of frustration.
Still, my Asus AC5300 in itself may be problematic. Hard to rule that out as of now; however ... perhaps I should just look at a whole new system using Ubiquiti instead.
Question for you, or anyone. Does PoE carry over a keystone? In that, If I put a PoE switch in my basement (central termination for everything), will the power run through the patch cables that connect to each room's keystone? So If I plug into any of those ports, will I still get power there?
Thanks
Yikes, a full Ubi setup is more expensive than originally thought (Gateway, Switch, 2x AP's, Cloud Key) = $600 (several pieces being warehouse deals too).
adambean wrote:Yikes, a full Ubi setup is more expensive than originally thought (Gateway, Switch, 2x AP's, Cloud Key) = $600 (several pieces being warehouse deals too).
To answer your earlier question, yes POE will transmit through a keystone. I'm doing that now. You just need to make sure all the pairs are connected in the wire.
Regarding the Ubi setup... Strictly speaking, all you need is the APs. Each AP comes with a POE injector. You can download the controller for free and run it on a PC or laptop. It's only needed during setup (unless you use guest networks with access control.) I strongly recommend the key though. You also don't need the Gateway and can use any router you'd like. I don't use the Gateway and I'm not sure I'd recommend it.
st_shaw wrote:
adambean wrote:Yikes, a full Ubi setup is more expensive than originally thought (Gateway, Switch, 2x AP's, Cloud Key) = $600 (several pieces being warehouse deals too).
To answer your earlier question, yes POE will transmit through a keystone. I'm doing that now. You just need to make sure all the pairs are connected in the wire.
Regarding the Ubi setup... Strictly speaking, all you need is the APs. Each AP comes with a POE injector. You can download the controller for free and run it on a PC or laptop. It's only needed during setup (unless you use guest networks with access control.) I strongly recommend the key though. You also don't need the Gateway and can use any router you'd like. I don't use the Gateway and I'm not sure I'd recommend it.
st_shaw I've been exploring Ubiquiti products and was wondering out of curiosity what you're using or what you'd recommended for a router to use with the AP's instead of the security gateway?
captain_phaser wrote:@st_shaw I've been exploring Ubiquiti products and was wondering out of curiosity what you're using or what you'd recommended for a router to use with the AP's instead of the security gateway?
You can use any router you want with the APs. Without the USG you just won't get some of the graphs and stats that USG provides on the Controller interface.
I've used the FiOS Actiontec, Edgerouter Lite, Edgerouter-X, and Mikrotik routers with the APs.
I don't use the USG myself because it doesn't natively support several features I need--multiple static IPs on the WAN, and IPSEC VPN with customer settings, to name two.
I hesitate to recommend the USG because it seems like a work in process with a long completion timeline. The processor is a bit anemic too, and will only do 50-60 Mbps with QoS. However, if you have a typical home setup with a single WAN IP, it would probably work great.
All the routers I mentioned are frustrating in one way or another. Ubiquiti is soon coming out with a Edgerotuer-4 with a much more powerful processor. I will try that when it's released.
I'm currently using an Edgerouter-X and a Mikrotik RB750gr3. Both are around $60. Both are easy to setup for a basic network but are very difficult to configure simple things like port forwarding without a steep learning curve.
