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Trikon
Nov 09, 2023Aspirant
Your connection is not private after using router admin
I am running RBR50 with connected RBS50 both running the same firmware V2.7.4.24. The firmware version is irrelevant since this problem has dogged me since getting the routers. The issue After...
michaelkenward
Nov 09, 2023Guru - Experienced User
Trikon wrote:
I am running RBR50 with connected RBS50 both running the same firmware V2.7.4.24. The firmware version is irrelevant since this problem has dogged me since getting the routers.
The issue
After everytime I use my laptop (macbook) to access the router admin, I am faced with the dreaded message.
Your connection is not private
This is a result of the ever increasing paranoia about security with browser makers. If you are using Apple's own browser, you are even more likely to get this sort of piffle. You are lucky that it hasn't blocked you completely, a fate that has hit other Apple users:
NETGEAR Mobile Applications and Apple Devices FAQ - NETGEAR Communities
Some forum answers talk about specifying https instead of http, it is not this problem.
I don't know how you arrived at the conclusion that this is not the problem. How did you work that out?
This is why some browsers gag.
Websites in the outside world should use https. If you are accessing things on your local network, your router's graphical user interface (GUI) for example, http is safe. But browsers are programmed to object.
Of course, if you try to access you router from the outside world, using Anywhere Access for example, https is essential, which is why that is built into the system.
User failure to understand how things work has been going on for years. So much so that Netgear added the option to set https as the preferred protocol.
In many routers, go to Advanced Setup and look in Web Services Management and the Local Management checkbox.
From time to time, someone turns up here screaming about their "broken" router when what they have done is told it to Always Use HTTPS to Access Router. Doing this blocks various things so they usually go back and this turn off.
I loathe this product and right now would never recommend it.
If you reached that conclusion on the basis of that misleading error message, I fear that you may have to abandon the Internet. What you are describing is a "feature" of modern browsers and routers.
- TrikonNov 09, 2023Aspirant
"I don't know how you arrived at the conclusion that this is not the problem. How did you work that out?"
The problem occurs if I enter https URLs directs, I am not trying to access HTTP addresses.
- michaelkenwardNov 09, 2023Guru - Experienced User
Trikon wrote:
The problem occurs if I enter https URLs directs, I am not trying to access HTTP addresses.
That does not suddenly turn an http link into https.
- microchip8Nov 09, 2023MasterDo you trust your own network? If so, there's no reason to use HTTPS. Also, using HTTPS will still throw a warning as the certificates are self-signed and not part of the browser to recognize them.
- TrikonNov 09, 2023Aspirant
"From time to time, someone turns up here screaming about their "broken" router when what they have done is told it to Always Use HTTPS to Access Router. Doing this blocks various things so they usually go back and this turn off.
I loathe this product and right now would never recommend it.
If you reached that conclusion on the basis of that misleading error message, I fear that you may have to abandon the Internet. What you are describing is a "feature" of modern browsers and routers."
For you informaiton, I find these remarks vaguely condescending and rather dismissive - not really what I was expecting in a help forum. For your information, I have been working in IT since 1985 and have been an internet user since 1994. I think I can consider myself quite good at problem diagnosis, I may be a software expert but not a networking expert.
This problem only occurs immediately after logging on to the router https://10.0.0.1 to add new devices to the network via access control. It does not occur at any other time. I use the latest version of Chrome. It seems to be a wifi issue because when I connect via wired, I get access fine.
- michaelkenwardNov 09, 2023Guru - Experienced User
Trikon wrote:
This problem only occurs immediately after logging on to the router https://10.0.0.1 to add new devices to the network via access control.
How many routers do you have on your network?
What is the modem/gateway/ONT that connects you to the Internet.
I ask because by default Netgear's routers allocate themselves the address 192.168.1.1. They will only go for 10.0.0.1 if they spot a possible conflict. That can happen when someone tries to add a router to a modem/router.
Do that and you can end up; with all manner of problems.
It seems to be a wifi issue because when I connect via wired, I get access fine.All of a sudden we have a different issue, and a different set of details.Again, the problem, appears to be in your network rather than the router.
What is it that you really want to fix?
In general, the advice from experienced users is to do as much as possible with a wired connection. Wifi is not reliable enough.
- TrikonNov 09, 2023Aspirant
Q. What is the modem/gateway/ONT that connects you to the Internet?
A. I have full fibre to the property - some kind of fibre to Ethernet modem that I plug into the base router. NOthing there has changed.
I ask because by default Netgear's routers allocate themselves the address 192.168.1.1. They will only go for 10.0.0.1 if they spot a possible conflict. That can happen when someone tries to add a router to a modem/router.
A. My network is setup to use 10.0.0.xxx, I cant remember why. I have Access Control nailed down with registered MAC addresses for each known device. I always access the router using the 10.0.0.1 address.
I have one base router and one satellite router in operation presently. My second satellite I am not using currently. Because the satellite is in my office, I would generally use this when accessing the router admin.
Interesting, I tried the 192.16.1.1. address and then my device disconnected from the network - quite bizarre.
All of a sudden we have a different issue, and a different set of details.Again, the problem, appears to be in your network rather than the router.
A. Barring the physics of wireless communication, surely the network is the router?
What is it that you really want to fix?
A. I dont want my laptop locked out of the network and internet access everytime I finsh doing router admin the add ot remove devices in the access control function. I really dont think this is unreasonable.
In general, the advice from experienced users is to do as much as possible with a wired connection. Wifi is not reliable enough.
A. This seems like good advice. Perhaps I should also access the base router not a satellite router.