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Raoulvb
Mar 30, 2022Aspirant
Connection between 2 switches: do all networks need to be TAGGED?
I have a network with multiple VLAN subnets coming from one port of my router into the first GS308E (port has PVID 999) and I have my main/management network coming into another port (PVID=1) on the ...
- Mar 30, 2022
Look, there is no right or wrong. In an enterprise network different factors apply, muh more can be done there for various security considerations. On a small home or small business network, simplicity and reasonable management is key.
In absence of capture all and default staging or re-staging network where unknown and untrusted clients will be assigned to for further actions - ways beyond of the infrastructure and management capabilities in a small environment - having the default network direct and untagged available on a trunk is useful, think about troubleshooting, think about extending and migrating the infrastructure, think about an ad-hoc switch replacement is certainly much better than ending in hours or days of downtime.
More bandwidth can be added by LAG, by devices with faster link speeds - and not by adventurous ideas which might work this moment.
schumaku
Mar 30, 2022Guru - Experienced User
Dar Raoul,
Two links between the same switches is - even f these are carrying different VLANs - is a recepie to a nightmare. For such a configuration, we would need at least Smart switches with STP, RSTP, and MST (MSRP) for supporting multiple instances, eg. one by network (VLAN).
It does not matter which VLAN ID is configured as untagged/PVID on a physical network link (or a LAG) - as long as it's the same and only one on both ends.
Of course, you can also run all VLAN tagged on a trunk, but there s no need.
Regards,
Kurt
Raoulvb
Mar 30, 2022Aspirant
Hi Kurt,
my thinking here was to prevent speed limitations, so one full gigbit speed for my main network, and one shared by VLANs which have all devices which do not need high speed (none are streaming).
And this works, maybe by accident.
Anyway, if you recommend to only use one line, then my real question is even more important (which you did not answer or I do not understand what you wrote about "it does not matter......"):
Should I set this up as UNTAGGED for main (VLAN 1) and TAGGED for the others, or should I also set the port connecting the 2 switches to TAGGED for VLAN1? I read somewhere on in an article about this topic that all lines between switched should be fully tagged...
thanks,
Raoul
- schumakuMar 30, 2022Guru - Experienced User
Look, there is no right or wrong. In an enterprise network different factors apply, muh more can be done there for various security considerations. On a small home or small business network, simplicity and reasonable management is key.
In absence of capture all and default staging or re-staging network where unknown and untrusted clients will be assigned to for further actions - ways beyond of the infrastructure and management capabilities in a small environment - having the default network direct and untagged available on a trunk is useful, think about troubleshooting, think about extending and migrating the infrastructure, think about an ad-hoc switch replacement is certainly much better than ending in hours or days of downtime.
More bandwidth can be added by LAG, by devices with faster link speeds - and not by adventurous ideas which might work this moment.
- RaoulvbMar 30, 2022Aspirant
Thanks Kurt !!!
that helps.
Thinking of hours or days of down-time....thinking of what my wife will say.... oh boy. I know what I will do 😉
thanks again!! Really appreciate your fast answers.
regards,
Raoul
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