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Netgear GS724Tv4 vlan routing
Hi, I'm rather new to vlan's so I might have missed something simple but I don't get it working like I hoped it would. I've got a Genexis Platinum 7840 modem which hasn't got options for vlan...
Have you actualy called your ISP tech support and asked them this? Because very few ISPs out there run gear that lacks the capability of going into bridged mode. Keep in mind that MANY isp's call it something other than bridged mode. For example Comcast doesen't call it anything at all, the term "bridged" exists nowhere in their modem interface. However if you simply turn off the firewall on the modem - all the sudden you are in bridged mode and your router pulls via DHCP from their public numbers not from their modem's DHCP server. And this is on their RESIDENTIAL service that also has telephone and TV.
Call your ISP and tell them "I have a VPN router that REQUIRES a public IP number on it's outside interface, it DOES NOT need to be a static IP number it can be dynamic, but it MUST be public with NO firewalling" and see what they say. I am sure they have thousands of customers who are like this and their support department has heard this question a million times.
With a REAL router it's possible to have MULTIPLE privately numbered networks behind the router. In fact that's precisely what I am posting from - a private network that is ROUTED not translated, behind another private network.
In fact, (just to dangle a carrot in front of you) I have a business customer that has THREE privately numbered networks all behind a router. The router is the free Untangle firewall it connects the Internet to the main net, and the routers that are between the main net and the remote nets are Netgear WNDR4000s that have been re-flashed with dd-wrt. dd-wrt allows you to turn off address translation and and turn the device into a real router in fact you can run OSPF and be right up there with the big boys. And dd-wrt also has the ultra-special go-fast code that does fast switching in some of Netgears higher end routers like the 7000 so you can route at gigabit speeds.
There's a whole world of routing out there beyond 'the book' I encourage you to investigate.
Just called them again (did it before opening this thread) and still the answer is "No, you can't put it in bridge-mode" (or what name they would give it). But this person I was speaking to (had more knowledge then the first one I spoke about it) said it should be possible to put a device into DMZ. So maybe that could be an option.
I noticed you refrained from mentioning what they said when you told them you needed a public IP address. :-) Sounds like there IS a solution for you. You just don't want to pay for it.
I've met many people who are leasing trucks because they will swear on a stack of Bibles that they need a big truck. Yet when I look in their truck bed it's pristine. I've never understood why the same principle is not in operation when it comes to Internet service. You tell someone they need business service and they ignore you. Apparently the goal is whoever dies with the cheapest Internet service wins. :-)
Let me just say that ISP's operate on the old Telephone Company principle that if you are a business you must pay more. In their eyes anyone who wants to do the slightest thing interesting with their Internet service - run a server, run IPv6, run a static IP, run multiple networks (like you) is a business. That may be unfair but it's the only thing they have come up with to fairly delineate between business and residential service. They USED to use addresses but the cheaters destroyed that when businesses called in pretending to be residences.
The fact is that people in general support this idea when it comes to taxes - businesses should pay more - and a great many other things. So don't blame the ISPs for this attitude since they are just echoing what people say about everthing else.
I come from the principle that if you pay a lot for something that isn't working, and you just need to pay more for it to work properly, it's false economy not to pay more since the lot you are paying for the non-working thing is money down the rathole. But I realize this isn't a popular attitude with the race to the bottom society we have today.
Just sayin!
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