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alxkkbrg
Oct 24, 2021Aspirant
Setting up two WAX630 as mesh without Netgear Insight (Standalone)
Hi everyone-- I recently bought two Netgear WAX630 as access points, a router and two switches to create a reliable network for once. Netgear insight looked promising at the beginning but turned out...
alxkkbrg
Oct 25, 2021Aspirant
Hi Kurt--
Thanks again for your reply. What I have understood so far:
1. APs on Mesh systems are publishing a BSSID list of neighbouring APs on the same name/SSID (also known as a consumer Mesh)
2. You suggest that I could put my two WAX630 on the same network name(s)/SSID(s) to create a mesh like setup. Where the only thing missing would be 802.11r Fast Transition feature.
My further questions to broaden my understanding are:
1. Is WAX630 capable of creating a Mesh like array (publishing a BSSID list of neighbouring APs on the same name/SSID) in standalone mode?
OR
Is WAX630 only capable of creating a true Mesh array in Netgear Insight mode?
2. What exactly would I have to do to configure both APs into a mesh array without using Netgear Insight?
3. Further I found two options which might be suitable for my setup:
Create a dedicated SSID as a wireless backhaul or WDS
-Would you suggest rather to create a dedicated hidden SSID on lets say a 5Ghz high channel as a backhaul for the two APs or run build in WDS? (where is the difference? is there a difference performance or roaming capabillity? Is e.g. one more reliable than the other? What would be the downside of that setup in comparison to a true Mesh setup?
In other words: What would you suggest as a set up and how would you set it up considering Netgear Insight is not a suitable option for my needs right now.
Thanks for your help in advance.
Alex
schumaku
Oct 25, 2021Guru - Experienced User
Scratch the Mesh term as well as WDS since you will operate a wired network with the WAX630 attached.
No WiFi "Mesh" system does make what the technical Mesh term implies. Its a bad marketing term for the throw-in systems typically operated on a WiFi backhaul. And no whatever hidden SSID you talk of.
Forget also about WDS - again because you operate a wired network wit APs - so no WDS involved or required.
You have the choice to test drive if the simple config with two standalone managed WAX630 on the wired network, with one network or multiple networks with tagged 802.1Q (except of one which can retained untagged), and map as many SSIDs on the WAX630 mapping to the VLANs as you need.
I simply don't know (honestly I don't care much) if the standalone managed WAX6xx and WAC5xx will provide the RRM information with the alternate BSSID by SSID table (802.1k/.11v). The difference in case they don't is a slightly longer time to re-associate to the other AP. Have two US WAC resp. WAX AP on my test network and never really observed any kind of sticky client or a massive delay in re-associate of decent WiFi clients.
If you desperate, run a WiFi sniffer and analyze the wireless control frames.
What's the point for not trying to start using Insight? You won't look back ... especially when adding Insight manageable switches.
-Kurt
No WiFi "Mesh" system does make what the technical Mesh term implies. Its a bad marketing term for the throw-in systems typically operated on a WiFi backhaul. And no whatever hidden SSID you talk of.
Forget also about WDS - again because you operate a wired network wit APs - so no WDS involved or required.
You have the choice to test drive if the simple config with two standalone managed WAX630 on the wired network, with one network or multiple networks with tagged 802.1Q (except of one which can retained untagged), and map as many SSIDs on the WAX630 mapping to the VLANs as you need.
I simply don't know (honestly I don't care much) if the standalone managed WAX6xx and WAC5xx will provide the RRM information with the alternate BSSID by SSID table (802.1k/.11v). The difference in case they don't is a slightly longer time to re-associate to the other AP. Have two US WAC resp. WAX AP on my test network and never really observed any kind of sticky client or a massive delay in re-associate of decent WiFi clients.
If you desperate, run a WiFi sniffer and analyze the wireless control frames.
What's the point for not trying to start using Insight? You won't look back ... especially when adding Insight manageable switches.
-Kurt
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