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WAX630E Best connection method for 2 AP's at same location?
I have 2 WAX630E AP's in my home. While it might seem overkill, I have a single story 3800sqft home, and figured one at the front of the house and one at the rear would provide the best coverage/spe...
schumaku wrote:Undoubted, this is where I would bring a MS108EUP uplink port so you have a consistent 2.5GbE coverage.
It's not a question of 6E - the same would apply if operating 5 GHz AX on a 4x4 or for the sake on 2x2 clients. The performance would not massively differ if not having the 4x4 in 5.0GHz H, 4x4 in 5.0GHz L, 4x4 in 2.4GHz radios on board (5.0GHz H: 2400Mbps, 5.0GHz L: 2400Mbps, 2.4GHz: 1200Mbps) instead of the 2x2 in 6.0GHz, 4x4 in 5.0GHz, 2x2 in 2.4GHz radios (6.0GHz: 2400Mbps, 5.0GHz: 4800Mbps, 2.4GHz: 600Mbps). Needless to say, the dedicated 6 GHz channels provide an advantage due to the much less occupied band.
The powerful AP could take big advantage on the 2.5GbE vs. the limited single Gigabit uplink.
I have arranged it so the MS108 is directly connected to the appliance so the 2.5G is fully realized, and the Gigabit switch uplinks to that. I did not notice any difference until I realized I never went and enabled 6G on the AP. Once I did that, all was good.
As you have one capable network connecting both WAX630E using two 2.5G links to the MS108EUP there is no reason to configure a mesh which does establish another link (over wireless) between the wireless root and the extender.
Amazing the networking marketing people caused a lot of confusion praying a mesh to appear as a holy grail. Said that, there is no reason to create an Insight mesh here.
The question is what you want to achieve with this two AP on the 2.5G links each and the rest of the infrastructure which remains on Gigabit.
schumaku wrote:The question is what you want to achieve with this two AP on the 2.5G links each and the rest of the infrastructure which remains on Gigabit.
I have 6E devices. I upgraded from the Orbi 6E mesh system (not Pro), so I was trying to match what I had or do better. The question I could not find a solid answer on was if 2.5G was needed to achieve 6E performance. With the Orbi, I had no 2.5G links and was able to get full speed on my 6E devices, whereas now I am only getting about half of that with the mesh setup. I was getting a bit less than half before I created the Insight mesh. I also have a firewall appliance with 2.5G ports (WAN, eth0, opt1, opt2). Despite the seemingly obvious mistake I might have made by connecting the MS108E to a 1G switch, should I have instead connected to the appliance?
Undoubted, this is where I would bring a MS108EUP uplink port so you have a consistent 2.5GbE coverage.
It's not a question of 6E - the same would apply if operating 5 GHz AX on a 4x4 or for the sake on 2x2 clients. The performance would not massively differ if not having the 4x4 in 5.0GHz H, 4x4 in 5.0GHz L, 4x4 in 2.4GHz radios on board (5.0GHz H: 2400Mbps, 5.0GHz L: 2400Mbps, 2.4GHz: 1200Mbps) instead of the 2x2 in 6.0GHz, 4x4 in 5.0GHz, 2x2 in 2.4GHz radios (6.0GHz: 2400Mbps, 5.0GHz: 4800Mbps, 2.4GHz: 600Mbps). Needless to say, the dedicated 6 GHz channels provide an advantage due to the much less occupied band.
The powerful AP could take big advantage on the 2.5GbE vs. the limited single Gigabit uplink.
schumaku wrote:Undoubted, this is where I would bring a MS108EUP uplink port so you have a consistent 2.5GbE coverage.
It's not a question of 6E - the same would apply if operating 5 GHz AX on a 4x4 or for the sake on 2x2 clients. The performance would not massively differ if not having the 4x4 in 5.0GHz H, 4x4 in 5.0GHz L, 4x4 in 2.4GHz radios on board (5.0GHz H: 2400Mbps, 5.0GHz L: 2400Mbps, 2.4GHz: 1200Mbps) instead of the 2x2 in 6.0GHz, 4x4 in 5.0GHz, 2x2 in 2.4GHz radios (6.0GHz: 2400Mbps, 5.0GHz: 4800Mbps, 2.4GHz: 600Mbps). Needless to say, the dedicated 6 GHz channels provide an advantage due to the much less occupied band.
The powerful AP could take big advantage on the 2.5GbE vs. the limited single Gigabit uplink.
I have arranged it so the MS108 is directly connected to the appliance so the 2.5G is fully realized, and the Gigabit switch uplinks to that. I did not notice any difference until I realized I never went and enabled 6G on the AP. Once I did that, all was good.
if you can wire in your home, Please use wired backhauls to get full throughputs. this will remove wireless as the limitation.
Disable Insight instant mesh altogether to avoid any accidental loops.
I have consistently got 900+ mbps and upto 1.2 Gbps when my Samsung S21 (BRCM chipsets) and Samsung Windows 11 laptop (intel AX210 ) when connects in 6E mode. I have changed the channel bandwidth on 6Ghz radios to 160Mhz.
(my ISP is ATT 1Gig up/down). I use 2.5gig switch as backhaul.
abacqdghfth wrote:if you can wire in your home, Please use wired backhauls to get full throughputs. this will remove wireless as the limitation.
Disable Insight instant mesh altogether to avoid any accidental loops.
I have consistently got 900+ mbps and upto 1.2 Gbps when my Samsung S21 (BRCM chipsets) and Samsung Windows 11 laptop (intel AX210 ) when connects in 6E mode. I have changed the channel bandwidth on 6Ghz radios to 160Mhz.
(my ISP is ATT 1Gig up/down). I use 2.5gig switch as backhaul.
Currently I do have the mesh enabled (which it sounds like I need to disable). My home is wired. Currently the setup AP wise is:
AP1 -> MS108EUP (port1) -> MS108EUP (port5) -> TP-Link Gigabit switch -> firewall appliance (OPNSense) with 2.5G
AP2 -> MS108EUP (port2) -> same as above
Is that correct for backhaul as well? If so, I'm thinking I just need to bypass the TP-Link and go straight to the appliance.
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