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chadonmac
Jan 09, 2021Initiate
Orbi firmware V2.6.0.108 no longer allows Orbi App connection
I let the Orbi insight app update my router and satelites to V2.6.0.108 and now i am unable to connect to my network through the local Orbi App. I have tried all troubleshooting steps(I could connec...
chadonmac
Feb 06, 2021Initiate
I would totally agree with this business model and path if the insight app wasn’t totally useless. Can you give us some kind of feature list that Insight does that the free Orbi app does not do? You say we can use the webui like that is some kind of miraculous new option. This is simply unbelievable in today’s competitive mesh wifi industry that you would try and squeeze an extra 10$ for your customers to go backwards in functionality. Poor judgment NetGear….I’m an IT consultant that “used” to recommend this solution.
YeZ
Feb 06, 2021NETGEAR Expert
To name a few Insight provides that Orbi app does not:
1. Entire network level Topology Map instead of just behind the OrbiPro.
2. Ability to manage the 4th SSID available on OrbiPro
3. Remote access through web server, in addition to the app
4. Remote Ping/Traceroute/DNS Lookup capability
5. Device Configuration saved in the Cloud instead of local computer, that can be restored from anywhere.
And we also have new features planned in Insight, that won't be available on Orbi app.
Thank you.
- dirFeb 06, 2021Apprentice
Uh,
1. Entire network level Topology Map instead of just behind the OrbiPro.
- This only works for Netgear equipment though, doesn't it? Or will it map/let me map my entire network regardless of brand of equipment?
Please google "network topology map" and look at the images retrieved. Does Insight let me create these, or does it simply display the Netgear equipment I have, graphically? I'm pretty sure it's the latter, in which case, this is not a feature that anyone needs/uses/would pay for.
2. Ability to manage the 4th SSID available on OrbiPro
- I bought the OrbiPro and I need to use the 4th SSID that I paid for. So far, NO version of Insight has let me view/modify this 4th SSID. I have logged this as a bug over a year ago. There have been numerous versions of Insight since then and none even know about the 4th SSID. That has forced me to use the web UI - which means that Insight is a useless product to anyone that needed to manage this.
3. Remote access through web server, in addition to the app
- Useful, used, but not something I'd expect to pay for
4. Remote Ping/Traceroute/DNS Lookup capability
- Please don't embarass yourselves by trying to make this basic function some sort of "feature". Routers have had this ability for over 20 years.
5. Device Configuration saved in the Cloud instead of local computer, that can be restored from anywhere.
- If I need this then I'd pay for it. I don't need this but others may be willing to pay an ongoing fee for this.
- dirFeb 06, 2021Apprentice
I'd like to recommend to Netgear that they evaluate what truely added-value features are in Insight vs what are basic management functions that all router/switch apps have, and allow people to pay for those added-value features while allowing the rest of us to use the basic app.
Basically like EVERY SINGLE FREEMIUM PHONE APP EVER WRITTEN. Users pay for additional features, otherwise they can only use the basic app. - YeZFeb 08, 2021NETGEAR Expert
1. Entire network level Topology Map instead of just behind the OrbiPro.
- This only works for Netgear equipment though, doesn't it? Or will it map/let me map my entire network regardless of brand of equipment?
Please google "network topology map" and look at the images retrieved. Does Insight let me create these, or does it simply display the Netgear equipment I have, graphically? I'm pretty sure it's the latter, in which case, this is not a feature that anyone needs/uses/would pay for.
The map will be able to display the network device in the network even if it is not NETGEAR device, but with NETGEAR device, more information will be available on the map.
2. Ability to manage the 4th SSID available on OrbiPro
- I bought the OrbiPro and I need to use the 4th SSID that I paid for. So far, NO version of Insight has let me view/modify this 4th SSID. I have logged this as a bug over a year ago. There have been numerous versions of Insight since then and none even know about the 4th SSID. That has forced me to use the web UI - which means that Insight is a useless product to anyone that needed to manage this.
Starting Insight Manager v6.0 released in early Jan, it supports the 4th SSID on OrbiPro.
3. Remote access through web server, in addition to the app
- Useful, used, but not something I'd expect to pay for
4. Remote Ping/Traceroute/DNS Lookup capability
- Please don't embarass yourselves by trying to make this basic function some sort of "feature". Routers have had this ability for over 20 years.
Insight made those troubleshooting functions available remotely. If you are away from the location where the OrbiPro is, you can still run ping/traceroute/DNS lookup through the OrbiPro.
- TonytonytonyFeb 08, 2021TutorI bought the orbi pro in Jan 2020, there was no mention that I would lose the “Free” monitoring capabilities via the app. I hope you have a disclaimer in place for all new Orbi Pro purchases, your clients would probably appreciate to know that the “free” monitoring is only valid for a year.. then it will cost them $$$ onwards. Not sure any home users would be purchasing your Orbi Pros knowing they would need to fork over extra $$$ later on. I’m using this for home and definitely not happy about the extra $$$ needed to be able to use an app to view my connections..
- schumakuFeb 08, 2021Guru - Experienced User
Tonytonytony wrote:
I bought the orbi pro in Jan 2020, there was no mention that I would lose the “Free” monitoring capabilities via the app. I hope you have a disclaimer in place for all new Orbi Pro purchases, your clients would probably appreciate to know that the “free” monitoring is only valid for a year.. then it will cost them $$$ onwards. Not sure any home users would be purchasing your Orbi Pros knowing they would need to fork over extra $$$ later on. I’m using this for home and definitely not happy about the extra $$$ needed to be able to use an app to view my connections..When reviewing the Orbi Pro SRK60 - AC3000 Tri-band WiFi System Data Sheet D-SRK60-7Feb19 - so dated 07-FEB-2019 - there is no mention of the subject Orbi App ... just the Insight.
- TonytonytonyFeb 08, 2021TutorNever heard about the insight app. The recommended app was Netgear Orbi from the manual for installation.
- TonytonytonyFeb 08, 2021TutorHere’s the instructions from the box
- YeZFeb 08, 2021NETGEAR Expert
Tonytonytony wrote:
Here’s the instructions from the boxYou are right, in early days of OrbiPro, we used Orbi app, before Insight app was updated to support OrbiPro with remote management of features Orbi app does locally, and more (like 4th SSID) last year. Since then, we have asked users to start using Insight app instead, giving that future new function/feature support would only be available through Insight app/Cloud Portal.
You do have the option to only use the local web GUI of OrbiPro, without the need of using remote management function through Insight.
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