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MattMatt
May 27, 2019Star
Nighthawk App - Feature Request
I would like to have the ability to see the following in the Device Manager: List of allowed devices not currently connected to the network List of blocked devices not currently connected to the n...
IrvSp
May 27, 2019Master
schumaku wrote:
MattMatt wrote:I would also like to be able to deny a particular device access to the network even if it has the password. Currently the only capability the router has is to block access to the Internet. I don't want to use a client separator or whatever. I want to block a device off the network completely even if they have the password.
At this point I'm more than confused - more something like up set - well, I always was when it comes to Netgear's consumer stuff.
IrvSp you have a R8000 or R8000P when the grey cells haven't failed - please check if everything from here is right!
OK, here is what I did... see the screen capture on left.
I BLOCKED my phone from connecting. The PHONE IS blocked. The Wireless icon is still there, but there is a 'small' ! to the right. Phone IP Address is 165.0.0.2? Tried to use the web, it says it is BLOCKED BY THE ROUTER ACCESS CONTROL..
On my R8000!!!
When I then ALLOWED it, phone wireless access returned.
schumaku
May 27, 2019Guru - Experienced User
IrvSpthank you for joining! As a second test, may I kindly ask you to "Pause" any device from the Nighthawk App - and then check of this does lead to the same result as using [Block] in the Web UI Access control - or if it does _only_ stop the Internet access, but continues to allow the access to the same [W]LAN - as documented (and applicable for the R8000!) -> https://kb.netgear.com/24830/How-do-I-use-access-control-to-allow-or-block-devices-from-accessing-the-Internet-on-my-Nighthawk-router ?
To compare, the R9000 here does block both - so using the Access Control - Block/Allow does exactly reflect the Allow/Pause from the App.
The small (!) does indicate the device (phone) isn't able to reach the Internet - that's OK and expected.
- IrvSpMay 27, 2019Master
schumaku wrote:IrvSpthank you for joining! As a second test, may I kindly ask you to "Pause" any device from the Nighthawk App - and then check of this does lead to the same result as using [Block] in the Web UI Access control - or if it does _only_ stop the Internet access, but continues to allow the access to the same [W]LAN - as documented (and applicable for the R8000!) -> https://kb.netgear.com/24830/How-do-I-use-access-control-to-allow-or-block-devices-from-accessing-the-Internet-on-my-Nighthawk-router ?
To compare, the R9000 here does block both - so using the Access Control - Block/Allow does exactly reflect the Allow/Pause from the App.The small (!) does indicate the device (phone) isn't able to reach the Internet - that's OK and expected.
Kurt, that small ! does mean I don't have any connection. Somehow the phone's IP Address changed to a real odd one like I said, but since it seemed to think I had a wireless connection, which I did not, it never reverted to the cell service...
So to do what the 2nd test was I opened my iPad's NightHawk app and paused the same phone. This time 'slightly' different results...
First, the Nighthawk app Device screen significantly changed? We've got 2 Android phones, both are set to show a phone icon AND individual device names. Now I paused my phone. Screen circles and rebuilds, comes back with MY phone in the pause position, BUT, and this is the odd part, my phone name changed to Android and a bunch of alpha-numerics, AND so did my wife's Android? Odd that BOTH would change? Oh well. I checked the phone, and unlike the time blocking it for the Browser Genie, it did NOT change the IP Address of 192.168.1.4? Oh? Interesting, but I could not use the Chrome browser as it never connected to anything, nor show me the blocked message? However, when I tried to open NIGHTHAWK app it couldn't? Said I could not connect to the SSID (5-2 Ghz) it was on? Could it be because the iPad was connected I though? So I turned back on the Android Phone. NightHawk on the iPad refreshed and both Android Phone names came back (why would pausing one Android phone change the name of both?). OK, phone now works browsing and still has the same IP Address. Great. With the Nighthawk app still on on the iPad, I opened it on the Android phone. It opened, logged in to the R8000 and works?
My conclusion? I don't care what the documentation says (when should one ever trust NG help or documentation that probably never changes with firmware updates or new/changed mobile apps), as far as I can tell, BLOCK and PAUSE do the same FUNCTION, STOPS ALL ACCESS TO THE LAN...
So I wanted to VERIFY this more, I used the iPad to PAUSE (via iPad's NightHawk) my PC, the very one I'm writing this on. First thing I did was open a CMD prompt and did a NET VIEW:
C:\>net view
System error 6118 has occurred.The list of servers for this workgroup is not currently available
Sort of verifies I am NOT on the LAN... and then I noticed on the Browser where I'm writing this a RED bar telling me the AUTOSAVE failed?
Ok, took off PAUSE and check NET VIEW:
C:\>net view
Server Name Remark---------------------------------------------
\\IRV8700 Irv's 8700
\\LARAINE-XPS8500 Laraine's XPS8500
\\READYSHARE readyshare
The command completed successfully.Also as I type this the AUTOSAVE is working again.
Soooo.... I think I can safely say BOTH BLOCK and PAUSE do the same function, disconnect the device from the LAN.
I would think though if other routers have a different operational mode, like you can only block Internet access, that might not be true, but it is sure more work for the CPU/router to keep track of who has Internet access and who doesn't? On the other hand, the OP claims they didn't have the same results I did? OP claims to have an R8000 like I do too? I am on V1.0.4.28_10.1.54, could OP be on a different F/W?
In any case, it seems NG documentation if FUBAR'ed?