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dayhawking
Mar 31, 2025Aspirant
MK62 wifi and wired connection issues
I have MK62 connected to Verizon FIOs ONT. The satellite is connected wirelessly. Recently, a computer connected through a switch to the MR60 could not get a connection, probably could not get a...
plemans
Apr 01, 2025Guru
what modem/gateway do you ohave from verizon? They aren't known for just having ont's. they tend to have gateways that cause a double nat.
dayhawking
Apr 02, 2025Aspirant
The armored fiber from outside went into a box, which seems connected via a smaller fiber to a NOKIA branded device, which provided IP and phone connections. My MR60 connects to its IP port directly and is then chained to a netgear switch GS105 for wired connections.
Not sure what model the NOKIA box is. It looks the same as a "Nokia 3FE52343APAA Optical Modem Verizon" selling on ebay right now at https://www.ebay.com/itm/186327504752
The label showed 4p92 besides the UL symbol, P/N 3FE52343APAA, ICS 01, and my device shows MRev 03, MFG: month 01, year 2021, G-211M-C, etc.
- plemansApr 03, 2025Guru
what actual firmware is on the router/satellites?
Are you using the extender with it?
- dayhawkingApr 12, 2025Aspirant
The NIGHTHAWK app (app version 2.44.0.4515)n reports both MR60 and MS60 with Firmware Version v1.1.7.134.
The app reports the laptop is connected to the MR60, not showing information about the switch between the laptop and MR60.
It is observed that both wired and wireless connection taking quite long to set up the internet connection when it can. Before Windows 11 pro report the laptop is on the internet, it does not have the ip address, dns address, the connection lease, etc. To be accurate, the wireless connection is to a Verizon router connected to the same switch - the laptop's (old) wireless card do not detect the MK2 wireless network, a known issue. Does Windows 11 Pro contribute to the slow or failed network connection initialization?
Thanks,
- michaelkenwardApr 12, 2025Guru
dayhawking wrote:
The app reports the laptop is connected to the MR60, not showing information about the switch between the laptop and MR60.
The switch will be invisible. It is just a dumb bit of wire. The router shows the connections.
To be accurate, the wireless connection is to a Verizon router connected to the same switch - the laptop's (old) wireless card do not detect the MK2 wireless network, a known issue.What is that doing in there? plemans asked you about the ONT. Adding another router to the network is the same as slapping a modem/router in with the MR60. You end up with the dreaded "double NAT" configuration.
Two routers on your network can cause headaches. For example, you can end up with local problems with addresses on your network. Among other things, the other router can misdirect traffic to addresses that the Netgear router usually handles, such as routerlogin.net or the usual default IP address for a router, 192.168.1.1.
This explains some of the other drawbacks.
What is Double NAT? | Answer | NETGEAR SupportIt is not surprising that you see strange things happening. The symptoms you describe are classic double NAT gotchas..
If you really need the Verizon router in there, it should be easy to put it into access point (AP) mode. Then the MR60 does the heavy lifting.
Does Windows 11 Pro contribute to the slow or failed network connection initialization?Another sign of double NAT getting in the way.
Just another user with time on their hands.