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crazyoldhermit
Apr 16, 2023Star
MR60/MS60 slow wifi and wired backhaul issue
Topology - Motorola SurfBoard (Spectrum ISP) > Netgate SG-2100 > Netgear GS108Tv3 > several unmanaged switches and my devices, including the MR60 in AP mode, and the MS60 as a satellite. Firmwar...
michaelkenward
Apr 16, 2023Guru - Experienced User
crazyoldhermit wrote:
I expect the MR60 to provide speeds close to what I get from the ISP.
Wired, yes. Wifi, no.
In your shoes I would try to sort out what looks like a rat's nest of a network.
- crazyoldhermitApr 16, 2023Star
Ok Michael, let's dive into your response a little -
1. I am not expecting the AP to provide faster speed than a wired connection. The capabilities of the device and the Wifi6 spec are pretty clear that I should be getting better speeds than what I currently do.
2. In my shoes, rat's nest? What exactly is a rat's nest about my setup? I have wifi provided by the Nighthawk Mesh, my router is rock solid modern pfSense appliance. Like many people, I have little stars happening at my media center, my office, and the NAS, with simple switches feeding the devices. Everything is wired except for mobile devices. So, if having a Netgear managed switch in front of Netgear devices that are advertised as being AP capable, then absolutely shame on me for this rat's nest.
Really, your post is the opposite of helpful and does not make you look at all like an expert. Thanks for the response, and if you care to clarify what exactly is a rat's nest here that would be great.
- plemansApr 16, 2023Guru - Experienced User
I'd start back simple.
Connect the MR60 directly to the primary router.
Make sure the MR60's internet connection is into the wan port. then connect the switches afterwards and the satellites to the MR60's lan port.
so go:
primary router----> wan port MR60--->lan port mr60---->switches/satellites.
- michaelkenwardApr 16, 2023Guru - Experienced User
crazyoldhermit wrote:
Thanks for the response, and if you care to clarify what exactly is a rat's nest here that would be great.
A rat's nest is a complicated bunch of hardware and wires that seems to go all over the place.
A pile of (anonymous) modem, firewalls, routers, switches and stuff with no clue as to the actual topography – what connects to what and in which order – makes it hard to see why all that complication is there. Is this some sort of office block that needs to get the Internet to a cast of thousands?
My long-past history working on complicated physics experiments taught me that I should keep everything as simple as possible. If I did have to add things, I would start simple and add bits one at a time and see what happens.
In the case of the MR60, which seems to be an odd thing to add to that network as in AP mode it loses many of the features that come with that sort of device, before beginning to question its capabilities I would find a way to test it at the start of the chain rather than at the end of a complicated rat's nest of wires. Only then can I know how it will behave in something like the circumstances that it is designed for, behind a modem and in front of any switches and stuff that could affect its performance.
- crazyoldhermitApr 16, 2023Star
Thank you plemans for the suggestions, but that arrangement isn't something I can do cleanly, and ironically would create the rat's nest that Michael imagines.
"A pile of anonymous" - are you kidding me? I don't believe any of the rest of your post, because that telling line. You didn't read my OP, or you would have nothing anonymous or mysterious. Your long-past history with physics is I am sure something you like to look back on fondly, but it is irrelevant to the conversation and also making this somehow about how very smart you are. Sure.
I bought the MR set because they were small and less "loud", not a spiky gaming router eyesore. I didn't have the money to plunk down on a Cisco AP or I would have. I have an excellent router, had it before I bought the mesh system, so that you are surprised that I would not want to use some of the features I bought is... surprising.As for the 101 advice connecting minimal devices... I said I wasn't an expert. I do work in IT for a living. In the future, I would appreciate you posting in good faith if I have a question, or simply doing anything else. Even if I were greener than the Jolly Green Giant and knew absolutely nothing about anything, this is a community forum - build the community, or find something better to do. I already have this narrowed to two devices, the Netgear switch or the Netgear Mesh. I will swap the switch out for a simple switch and see if that fixes the loopback issue, in which case I will take this issue to the GS108T zone. I started here because I am far from the first person with these exact issues with this Nighthawk system.