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Runaway1954
Nov 03, 2021Tutor
Nighthawk AX 1800 MK63
I want to make my WIFI clients part of the wired network. The wired network is routed through my DSL modem, a total of three machines. My Nighthawk plugs in via ethernet to that same modem, filling...
- Nov 03, 2021
Problem is, you're in a double nat.
A double nat happens when you cascade more than 1 router.
https://kb.netgear.com/30186/What-is-Double-NAT
Fixes? There’s 3 options but only use 1.
1. Put the modem/gateway in modem only/pass through mode. This disables its routing functions. In this mode, you'd need to go modem/gateway----->MR60---->switches/wired devices.
2. Leave the modem/gateway in router mode but put the Netgears IP address into its DMZ. This forwards the data to the netgear. You can either leave the modem/gateway’s wireless enabled or disabled. Just make sure its using a different wifi channel to prevent interference. Problem with this is it won't have everything on the same network. I wouldn't use this option.
3. Put the Netgear into access point mode. This disables its routing functions and leaves the gateway managing them. Wifi/ethernet still works but it does disable some features.
https://kb.netgear.com/26765/Which-features-are-disabled-on-my-NETGEAR-router-when-it-is-set-to-AP-ModeThis would have everything on the same subnet as your modem/gateway.
plemans
Nov 03, 2021Guru - Experienced User
Problem is, you're in a double nat.
A double nat happens when you cascade more than 1 router.
https://kb.netgear.com/30186/What-is-Double-NAT
Fixes? There’s 3 options but only use 1.
1. Put the modem/gateway in modem only/pass through mode. This disables its routing functions. In this mode, you'd need to go modem/gateway----->MR60---->switches/wired devices.
2. Leave the modem/gateway in router mode but put the Netgears IP address into its DMZ. This forwards the data to the netgear. You can either leave the modem/gateway’s wireless enabled or disabled. Just make sure its using a different wifi channel to prevent interference. Problem with this is it won't have everything on the same network. I wouldn't use this option.
3. Put the Netgear into access point mode. This disables its routing functions and leaves the gateway managing them. Wifi/ethernet still works but it does disable some features.
https://kb.netgear.com/26765/Which-features-are-disabled-on-my-NETGEAR-router-when-it-is-set-to-AP-Mode
This would have everything on the same subnet as your modem/gateway.
- Runaway1954Nov 03, 2021Tutor
Thanks for the quick response, plemans.
Option 3 looks acceptable, however, past experience with entirely different equipment raises a question. When I put the Nighthawk into AP mode, some options will be grayed out. But, I will be able, if I desire, to switch the Nighthawk out of AP made?
To make sense of that question, I should explain that some ISP issued modem offered a bridging mode years ago. Once switched into bridging mode, I was never able to log back into that modem, and when I asked Tech Support, they just brought a new modem to the house.
Second question, after making the switch, I presume logging into the Nighhawk will be as simple as finding it's IP address on the modem, then logging into for example 192.168.0.2.
I've checked that list of grayed out options three times now, and don't anticipate that any of those will be a problem.
- plemansNov 03, 2021Guru - Experienced User
Yes. If the current modem is running in router mode, it'll assign and IP address to the MR system.You'll be able to use that address to log into it and take it out of AP mode.
I'd just make a backup of your current configuration before doing so.
That way if there is an issue, you can simply factory reset the MR system and it'll be back in router mode with default settings.
- Runaway1954Nov 03, 2021Tutor
Sweet. It works. Logged into the modem, I can now see all devices listed in the device table. I can see all three of the mesh network devices, and I can log into all three of them. (I didn't know that I could log into the individual satellites, lol!) Logging into the Nighthawk router, I do have the option of disabling AP mode.
This is exactly what I was looking for.
Thank you, thank you, thank you!